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White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

Jryan said:
Wouldn't of mattered if you had voted for Gore, Bush stole that election (Florida). IMHO that is.
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Still cannot get over the 2000 elections, I see. Doesn't answer my question. Amazing how naive and gullible you and other liberals are.
 
Jryan said:
What are story are you looking for?
Republicans not compromising?
US debt ceiling crisis: Why Republicans won't compromise | James Antle | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Republicans: We won't compromise on healthcare, spending - Political Currents - MiamiHerald.com
Why Republicans Won't Compromise
If there are any stories you would like, let me know.
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Compromise to a liberal means doing whatever the liberal wants. There was no reason to compromise with liberals because there were NO SPENDING CUTS something you continue to ignore.
 
Conservative said:
Compromise to a liberal means doing whatever the liberal wants. There was no reason to compromise with liberals because there were NO SPENDING CUTS something you continue to ignore.
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No, how about Obama's 3:1 plan. For every 3 dollars he cut spending, he raised taxes by one dollar, and Republicans threw that right out the window. So don't you start attacking the liberals... I think you have that first sentence backwards, compromise to republicans (at least in current times) means doing what ever they want.
 
Jryan said:
No, how about Obama's 3:1 plan. For every 3 dollars he cut spending, he raised taxes by one dollar, and Republicans threw that right out the window. So don't you start attacking the liberals... I think you have that first sentence backwards, compromise to republicans (at least in current times) means doing what ever they want.
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Show me that plan? You want badly to believe what Obama tells you but the reality is there were NO CUTS. As the CBO states, they don't score speeches! When your starting point is the 2011 spending levels which are record spending levels, where are the cuts?
 
Conservative said:
My, my, my such passion for the empty suit in the WH and total igorance of history. What a waste of time but here goes again, 38% approval rating today 2 1/2 years after taking office and with ZERO economic plan in place to change the direction of the company. sounds like a brainwashed Democrat to me.
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Translation: you agree with everything I said.
 
Conservative said:
Nailed what? Sheik told you what you wanted to hear and like the 38% that still support Obama today you bought the rhetoric.
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Now that's odd, in no poll is Obama at 38% ...

  • Gallup: 40%
  • Rasmussen: 42%
  • ABC/WaPo: 42%
  • CBS News: 44%
  • Quinnipiac: 41%
  • Pew Res: 43%
  • FOX News: 43%

So where do you get 38% from?
 
Conservative said:
Compared to the alternative I chose wisely, still waiting for you to explain why I should have voted for Gore or Kerry?
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Historians disagree with you ...


How Historians Rank the Presidents

The Siena College Research Institute has asked 238 presidential scholars to rank presidents five times since 1982. This year was a polling year. Franklin Roosevelt came in first, Barack Obama at 15th, George W. Bush at 40th, and Andrew Johnson dead last.

The scholars rank each president on 20 different characteristics before arriving at the overall scores. Here's a look at some of the characteristics the historians were asked to rank and which presidents they thought exemplified them best.​


Bush = 40th out of 43 presidents among historians.

You chose poorly. But to your defense, you didn't actually choose between candidates, you were going to vote for whomever the Republican was.
 
Conservative said:
Nailed what? Sheik told you what you wanted to hear and like the 38% that still support Obama today you bought the rhetoric.
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So what? 2½ years into Reagan's-R first term, his results had worsened from when he began.

Conservative: "Four more years!!"

2½ years into Bush Sr's-R first term, his results had worsened from when he began.

Conservative: "Four more years!!"

2½ years into Clinton's-D first term, his results had improved from when he began.

Conservative: "Kick Clinton out and let Dole in!!"

2½ years into Bush Jr's-R first term, his results had worsened from when he began.

Conservative: "Four more years!!"
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That. You refuse to acknowledge all the bad things with a republican president, but as soon as it's a democrat you cry wolf.

Edit: AND, what makes you think I still support Obama? I never said I supported him, at least in the way you think I do.
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
Now that's odd, in no poll is Obama at 38% ...

  • Gallup: 40%
  • Rasmussen: 42%
  • ABC/WaPo: 42%
  • CBS News: 44%
  • Quinnipiac: 41%
  • Pew Res: 43%
  • FOX News: 43%

So where do you get 38% from?
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It's not even the average of the polls. Probably got it the same way as Michele Bachmann found out how HPV vaccines cause mental retardation.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Translation: you agree with everything I said.
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You always did have a translation problem and cannot seem to understand facts out of context as you always want to focus on a different time, different economic conditions all in an attempt to divert from current economic results and the lack of an economic plan. It appears that you are part of the 38% that still supports the empty suit and a large number that do not understand responsibility.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Now that's odd, in no poll is Obama at 38% ...
  • Gallup: 40%
  • Rasmussen: 42%
  • ABC/WaPo: 42%
  • CBS News: 44%
  • Quinnipiac: 41%
  • Pew Res: 43%
  • FOX News: 43%
So where do you get 38% from?
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I posted the link yesterday which was 38%(Oct 4-6). Wouldn't be celebrating 40% either.
 
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Conservative said:
Gallup Poll, October 4-6. You can go to the Gallup site, put your mouse on the approval line and see what the approval rating was by day range.
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Really you don't say:roll: Now if the cat would just stop eating my mouse.

BTW if you has half a wit about you would would notice that 38% to 40% is within the margin of error. But you is what you is.
 
Conservative said:
Gallup Poll, October 4-6. You can go to the Gallup site, put your mouse on the approval line and see what the approval rating was by day range.
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Had you done what you're suggesting others do, you'd know his JAR is 41% and that you were being less than accurate posting obsolete information.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Had you done what you're suggesting others do, you'd know his JAR is 41% and that you were being less than accurate posting obsolete information.
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You really are something aren't you? Think a 41% approval rating is something to be proud of? The disapproval rating is well about 50% and that is what you should be worried about if you truly want this empty suit back in the WH for another 4 yrs. Guess he hasn't screwed up the economy for you in his first term with no pollicy to change direction?
 
Conservative said:
You really are something aren't you? Think a 41% approval rating is something to be proud of? The disapproval rating is well about 50% and that is what you should be worried about if you truly want this empty suit back in the WH for another 4 yrs. Guess he hasn't screwed up the economy for you in his first term with no pollicy to change direction?
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Hmmm and even with that 41% there still is no clear front runner when pitched against Obama:

[h=3]Polling Data[/h]
RCP Average9/22 - 10/4--46.045.3Romney +0.7
Quinnipiac9/27 - 10/32118 RV4642Romney +4
ABC News/Wash Post9/29 - 10/2RV4846Romney +2
Pew Research9/22 - 10/41901 RV4848Tie
Rasmussen Reports9/28 - 9/291000 LV4442Romney +2
FOX News9/25 - 9/27925 RV4245Obama +3
CNN/Opinion Research9/23 - 9/25917 RV4849Obama +1

PollDateSampleRomney (R)Obama (D)Spread


IMHO it is way to early aand fool hardy to say Obama won't get re-elected.
 
Conservative said:
You really are something aren't you? Think a 41% approval rating is something to be proud of? The disapproval rating is well about 50% and that is what you should be worried about if you truly want this empty suit back in the WH for another 4 yrs. Guess he hasn't screwed up the economy for you in his first term with no pollicy to change direction?
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This is really more about your personal struggles with conveying accurate and factual information than it is the slight difference between 38% and 41%. How do you not get that?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
This is really more about your personal struggles with conveying accurate and factual information than it is the slight difference between 38% and 41%. How do you not get that?
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Actually the information is/was accurate when it was posted. What is funny here is that you and your little team continue to ignore the fact that MOST OF AMERICA is not happy with the job Obama is doing.

If you like him, fine. At least try to grow up enough to give us some actual example of what there is to like. I for one see a person with no leadership experience or skill that has no idea how to do anything but talk about what he wants to do. His constant blaming of the GOP is pathetic and his bills are comical at best. Most of America was willing to give him a chance, and now most of America has had enough. That is the way it works whether you feel it should or not.

The difference between 38% and 41% is trivial and you look simply pathetic trying to use that as a point of argument.

It is sad that poeple with your level of maturity and intelligence get to vote and screw things up for the rest of us.
 
winston53660 said:
Hmmm and even with that 41% there still is no clear front runner when pitched against Obama:

[h=3]Polling Data[/h]
RCP Average9/22 - 10/4--46.045.3Romney +0.7
Quinnipiac9/27 - 10/32118 RV4642Romney +4
ABC News/Wash Post9/29 - 10/2RV4846Romney +2
Pew Research9/22 - 10/41901 RV4848Tie
Rasmussen Reports9/28 - 9/291000 LV4442Romney +2
FOX News9/25 - 9/27925 RV4245Obama +3
CNN/Opinion Research9/23 - 9/25917 RV4849Obama +1

PollDateSampleRomney (R)Obama (D)Spread


IMHO it is way to early aand fool hardy to say Obama won't get re-elected.
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Obama Approval Drops Back Down to 38%, Lowest of His Presidency | Red Dog Report

Please explain how you feel that mock poll information using hypothetical opponents is some kind of accurate information? Yes it is early, but nobody even has the slightest idea who will be running against Obama when the time comes. Unless Obama can pull a magic economy saving rabbit out of his hit within the next 2 years, I see that 38-41% today being all the explanation that you should need.
 
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Conservative said:
You really are something aren't you? Think a 41% approval rating is something to be proud of?
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A 41% approval rating given the economic and financial turmoil we find ourselves in is actually quite impressive.
 
Smokified said:
Obama Approval Drops Back Down to 38%, Lowest of His Presidency | Red Dog Report

Please explain how you feel that mock poll information using hypothetical opponents is some kind of accurate information? Yes it is early, but nobody even has the slightest idea who will be running against Obama when the time comes. Unless Obama can pull a magic economy saving rabbit out of his hit within the next 2 years, I see that 38-41% today being all the explanation that you should need.
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I can only go on what is it out there and right now it looks Romney is in the lead for the R nomination. So I picked Romney. and a comparison shows a close race.:shrug:
 
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