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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    09.30.2008: 10,024,724,896,912
    01.16.2009: 10,628,881,485,510
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    Total .............. 604,156,588,598


    U.S. Treasury



    Asked an answered ... repeatedly ... was applied against the deficit.


    Translation ... Conservative: "Stop exposing my hypocrisy!!"
    Very good, Sheik, how much of that is TARP? Wasn't TARP a loan and most of it paid back? When and where does that payback show up on the budget? Keep buying what this President tells you.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Very good, Sheik, how much of that is TARP? Wasn't TARP a loan and most of it paid back? When and where does that payback show up on the budget? Keep buying what this President tells you.
    How many times must I show you the breakdown of the FY2009 budget which showed $152 billion in outlays for TARP?

    The Budget Outlook

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    How many times must I show you the breakdown of the FY2009 budget which showed $152 billion in outlays for TARP?

    The Budget Outlook
    You really should stop when you are behind. The Budget outlook was for the entire year and since it was a Bush/Democrat Budget and Bush isn't in office the deficit belongs to the only remaining factor in that budget, the Democrats. I know how badly you want to stick to the past while ignoring the present. That is what liberals do especially those part of the extremely low number of Obama supporters today. January 21, 2009 10.6 trillion debt, today 14.8 trillion debt. Obama will add more debt in his first term than Bush did in 8 unless of course he matures and signs the GOP Budget proposals.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you hang out at freeper often, do you?
    You hang out at DU and DailyKOS often?
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    You really should stop when you are behind. The Budget outlook was for the entire year and since it was a Bush/Democrat Budget and Bush isn't in office the deficit belongs to the only remaining factor in that budget, the Democrats. I know how badly you want to stick to the past while ignoring the present. That is what liberals do especially those part of the extremely low number of Obama supporters today. January 21, 2009 10.6 trillion debt, today 14.8 trillion debt. Obama will add more debt in his first term than Bush did in 8 unless of course he matures and signs the GOP Budget proposals.
    Can you stay focused here, Con? This isn't about the Congress. Bush was in office between 10.1.2008 and 1.20.2009 when the debt increased $600B. When I asked you how much of the FY2009 budget was attributable to Obama, you said "all of it."

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Can you stay focused here, Con? This isn't about the Congress. Bush was in office between 10.1.2008 and 1.20.2009 when the debt increased $600B. When I asked you how much of the FY2009 budget was attributable to Obama, you said "all of it."
    Yep, civics would tell you that Congress and the President are responsible for the budget and the economy. The 2009 budget was passed almost completely with Democrat votes including Obama's. The 2009 budget did NOT include TARP which was a supplemental that also was supported by Obama. TARP was a LOAN that was to be paid back and most of it has been paid back. Bush spent 350 billion of that money from October-December 2008 so that IS included in the October-January 21 deficit. Now where does the repayment show up in the 2009 numbers?

    Now try to stay focused, Sheik, "your" President has taken the debt up over 4 trillion dollars, has 25plus million unemployed and under employed Americans, a rising misery index, and very low JAR with no plan in place to improve the economy. All Obama is doing is dividing and promoting more class warfare all in hopes of getting his base motivated again. That won't get the job done. Obama is a one termer

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Wonder how many really appreciate the lyrics in this song or even understand them

    Keep the Change: Hank Williams Jr. Calls Out ESPN, Fox News in "Revenge" Song! - The Hollywood Gossip

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wonder how many really appreciate the lyrics in this song or even understand them

    Keep the Change: Hank Williams Jr. Calls Out ESPN, Fox News in "Revenge" Song! - The Hollywood Gossip
    He has said his free speech rights were violated by ESPN, do you agree with him?


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Yep, civics would tell you that Congress and the President are responsible for the budget and the economy. The 2009 budget was passed almost completely with Democrat votes including Obama's.
    Ummm, that didn't happen until March, 2009. You're telling me that Obama was responsible for Bush's budget from October through March??

    Tell me, do you plan these inanities in advance or do you just make them up as you go along?


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The 2009 budget did NOT include TARP which was a supplemental that also was supported by Obama. TARP was a LOAN that was to be paid back and most of it has been paid back. Bush spent 350 billion of that money from October-December 2008 so that IS included in the October-January 21 deficit. Now where does the repayment show up in the 2009 numbers?
    You have to first prove how much of the first half of the $700B was paid back during FY2009. Otherwise, all you're doing is making a strawman arugment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Now try to stay focused, Sheik, "your" President has taken the debt up over 4 trillion dollars
    No, he has not. Another thing you're pretending doesn't exist is the amount of debt we have accumulated since 2008 is in large part due to Bush's Great Recession. That is not Obama's fault. It's a mess he inherited.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    has 25plus million unemployed and under employed Americans
    Which is also a gift from Bush's Great Recession which added 12 million to that number just between Dec. '07 and Jun. '09.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    All Obama is doing is dividing and promoting more class warfare all in hopes of getting his base motivated again.
    Please, you'd have to be brain-dead not to know that all it takes to divide Conservatives and Republicans from the rest of the nation is to elect a Democrat as president.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    He has said his free speech rights were violated by ESPN, do you agree with him?
    I agree with the lyrics of his song, do you?

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