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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    He is not incompetent he merely wants to tax you more so you don't like him. He is not the sole responsible party for today's economy. He may have a VERY small role in it, but it is Bush whom is responsible.

    If we have to blame someone or something it should be Bush/the current HoR/Senate. They have not budged on any of their policies and aren't getting anything done. Some of them even say I'm not signing ANYTHING Obama writes. Even if that anything is exactly what they want. *(Yay, the thread isn't dead)*
    Bush screwed up the economy in a royal way... taking essentially a balanced budget, starting two wars and paying for them by cutting revenue.... and thus running huge deficits, including turning over a running deficit in excess of $1T per year (zero to $1T in eight short years). Obama's crime is that he has not figured out how to pay for Bush's mess... but the mess was clearly handed over to Obama.

    EmployRecessJune2011.jpgGNP late Bush and early Obama.jpg


    Its unfortunate that Obama has not been able to cover the bar bill of the drunken sailors that were in the bar and handed him the tab.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Thanks, been there done that. Maybe some of your friends will like doing the research, but probably not.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Thanks, been there done that. Maybe some of your friends will like doing the research, but probably not.
    I already it posted once to night where you were going on about leaders, responsibility and authority and I called you out on your standing by your words.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Bush screwed up the economy in a royal way... taking essentially a balanced budget, starting two wars and paying for them by cutting revenue.... and thus running huge deficits, including turning over a running deficit in excess of $1T per year (zero to $1T in eight short years). Obama's crime is that he has not figured out how to pay for Bush's mess... but the mess was clearly handed over to Obama.

    EmployRecessJune2011.jpgGNP late Bush and early Obama.jpg


    Its unfortunate that Obama has not been able to cover the bar bill of the drunken sailors that were in the bar and handed him the tab.
    Amazing how a "dumb cowboy" from TX with total Democrat control of Congress did what you claim he did. Better think about that.

    Keep giving Obama a pass, seems you are in that low percentage that continue to support him. What do you know that the majority in this country doesn't? Your outrage over Bush is misguided and distorts your picture of what Obama has done. he had massive control of Congress and generated the following results 2 1/2 years later yet you blame Bush? No other President in modern history has ever had these kind of results 2 years after a recession ended.

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I already it posted once to night where you were going on about leaders, responsibility and authority and I called you out on your standing by your words.
    Cannot wait until your friends Google the U.S. Debt and compare what it was when obama took office to what it is today. Interesting how the blame goes back to Bush even though the budgets were Democrat budgets

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Cannot wait until your friends Google the U.S. Debt and compare what it was when obama took office to what it is today. Interesting how the blame goes back to Bush even though the budgets were Democrat budgets
    Do you even think? I mean what you just said has no logic in it and is almost irrelevant to the argument at hand. Let me sum it up for you. We are saying that BUsh was responsible for the bush great depression and that Obama has attempted (almost successfully) to repair the damage he did. Will you ever just say, sorry I was wrong?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Doesn't mean a thing to you, does it? Too big of a number for you to even comprehend.
    It is a big number but here's the problem I have with people like you complaining about it ...

    ... it didn't start with Obama.

    I recall when Reagan was tripling the debt, which at the time, it was a massive amout of debt, and Democrats were the ones complaining he was borrowing too much against our future. Republicans and Conservative defended him. He was followed up by Bush Sr. who was on track to doubling the debt over an 8 year period; same thing, Democrats complained it was too much debt and again, Republicans and Conservative defended him. Then we had his son who raised the debt more than Reagan and Bush41 combined. Perhaps you recall Cheney saying, "deficits don't matter."

    All it takes to get Conservatives to notice the debt is too high is to elect a Democrat president borrows like a Republican.

    And another stat you choose to ignore because you don't like it is that in the year prior to Bush entering office, the debt increased just $21 billion, yet he increased that to $1,438 billion before leaving office. That would be like Obama leaving his predecessor a debt growing by 96 trillion per year based on what he inherited.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    I recall when Reagan was tripling the debt, which at the time, it was a massive about of debt
    Looks like we have an adult here conservative. I'd also like to point out that both of my parents are liberal.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Do you even think? I mean what you just said has no logic in it and is almost irrelevant to the argument at hand. Let me sum it up for you. We are saying that BUsh was responsible for the bush great depression and that Obama has attempted (almost successfully) to repair the damage he did. Will you ever just say, sorry I was wrong?
    What? you didn't get your latest IPhone? That seems to be a depression to young liberals. There was no Great Bush Depression which indicates to me that the youth of today don't have a clue what a depression is. Obama did no such thing as the results today are worse than when he took office except on economic growth which ought to be better when you add 4 trillion to the debt.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Continued)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Looks like we have an adult here conservative. I'd also like to point out that both of my parents are liberal.
    That makes my point, Reagan added 1.7 trillion to the debt which tripled it and Obama has increased it by 4. trillion dollars or a 40% increase. Which one was worse?

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