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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's a fake movement funded by one of the parties that are upset over things that have been going on for years. Think it's a coincedence that the Tea Party suddenly started with Obama when deficit spending had been going on for years?
    You need to educate yourself. The Tea Party started a few years before TARP and only gained attention when Bush was still in office - railing against the bank bailouts. You're coincidence is in error. Secondly, the Tea Party is at odds with the Republicans and Democrats who spend tax payer money erroneously and have been doing that for a long time. Continuing to repeat falsehoods is called propaganda - so first educate yourself and second, it's easier to repeat facts than fiction, which brings me to:

    Show me the evidence that the Tea Party is "a fake movement" and secondly, show me where it's "funded by one of the parties" --- you mean political party? Which one? I'd like some evidence of that too please... thanksomuch.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The People won in Russia in 1917, too. And in China in 1947. A more accurate description would be that the, "mob", won.

    During the French Revolution, the government was feeding off the mob's anger and using that as reason to perform the executions, because they considered it to be the, "general will", of the people.

    Make no mistake, when you have a revolution that executes 600,000 citizens, based on rumors and for crimes amounting to nothing more than being rich, the people didn't win jack ****.
    This is a completely side arguement as IMO even if the Wall Street thing has any impact it's not comparable to what happened in France but IMO France ended up better off.

    What happened would have anyway most likely in a far more rational manner like with England today but the complaints were legit.

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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You need to educate yourself. The Tea Party started a few years before TARP and only gained attention when Bush was still in office - railing against the bank bailouts. You're coincidence is in error. Secondly, the Tea Party is at odds with the Republicans and Democrats who spend tax payer money erroneously and have been doing that for a long time. Continuing to repeat falsehoods is called propaganda - so first educate yourself and second, it's easier to repeat facts than fiction, which brings me to:

    Show me the evidence that the Tea Party is "a fake movement" and secondly, show me where it's "funded by one of the parties" --- you mean political party? Which one? I'd like some evidence of that too please... thanksomuch.
    Indeed. They tossed some very well established (R)'s because of their support of things like TARP and the mess created and they also allowed the (D)'s to win some seats because they refused to back certain party hacks.

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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Change a few words and it's the Tea Party. "This is all one big Republican-funded fake movement. Blaming spending and taxes....are these things that just happened yesterday?"
    The organizers of this astro-turf joke would want to pretend this is similar to the Tea Party movement. Which is pathetic. The Tea Party rose in response to Obama's disastrous first year as President, his expansion of Government, Obamacare, Stimulus, and out-of-control debt.

    Now we have this garbage group protesting what ? Events prior to Obama (how convenient), which if you follow logic, ending "bailouts" would seem to want less government intrusion in capital markets ..... but wait !! When you listen to them explain, it all comes down to redistribution and wealth envy. More government.

    A pox on Obama for fomenting all this just to stay in power. That disgrace of a President will be thrown out with gusto.

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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You need to educate yourself. The Tea Party started a few years before TARP and only gained attention when Bush was still in office - railing against the bank bailouts. You're coincidence is in error. Secondly, the Tea Party is at odds with the Republicans and Democrats who spend tax payer money erroneously and have been doing that for a long time. Continuing to repeat falsehoods is called propaganda - so first educate yourself and second, it's easier to repeat facts than fiction, which brings me to:

    Show me the evidence that the Tea Party is "a fake movement" and secondly, show me where it's "funded by one of the parties" --- you mean political party? Which one? I'd like some evidence of that too please... thanksomuch.
    Tea Party organizers claim that the first nationwide Tea Party protest took place on February 27, 2009, with coordinated events occurring in more than 40 cities.

    Read more: History of the Tea Party Movement — Infoplease.com History of the Tea Party Movement — Infoplease.com
    The Tea Party itself claims that they started in 2009. After Bush left office. So yeah, they had a lot of problems with the Bush administration...so many that they waited for him to leave office before they really started up.


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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The Tea Party itself claims that they started in 2009. After Bush left office. So yeah, they had a lot of problems with the Bush administration...so many that they waited for him to leave office before they really started up.
    While not an official thing, it was the same people who were demanding that we do not pass TARP. They are why it was initially at least voted down.

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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    No it didn't. It started with TARP.
    Again, TARP was a joint effort. Passed 74-25, with a higher percent of Democrat votes than Republican.

    U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

    About half the money was left for Obama to distribute.

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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Again, TARP was a joint effort. Passed 74-25, with a higher percent of Democrat votes than Republican.

    U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

    About half the money was left for Obama to distribute.
    Yes, because Paulson realized (too late) what a mess they had created.

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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    February of 2009. Pretty much right after Obama took power. To protest out of control spending that had been going on for 30 years and they suddenly realized it when a Democrat was in power. How gullible are you think it's not the Republicans somehow?
    Obama took it to new levels. $1.5T deficit. The waste of Stimulus. The crap of Obamacare, with such as the Cornhusker Kickback, Florida Flim-flam, and Louisiana Purchase. Call it the logs that broke the camel's back.

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    Re: White House feeds off protest anger

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    This is a completely side arguement as IMO even if the Wall Street thing has any impact it's not comparable to what happened in France but IMO France ended up better off.

    What happened would have anyway most likely in a far more rational manner like with England today but the complaints were legit.
    I think that's the part you're missing: the complaints during the French Revolution weren't legitimate. They were grievances based on rumors. i.e. Marie Antionette never said, "let them eat cake".

    The rumors of crimes committed by the Aristocrats were started for no other reason than to stir up public anger.

    The 600,000 people who were executed in France were some of France's best and brightest and looking at the events that followed the revolution and at modern day France, I would hardly say that they are better off.

    The coincidence between the French Revolution and the occupiers is that they're both motivated by bull**** information and are aggetated by people who don't really have the best interest of the country in mind.
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