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    Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California

    (CNN) -- Federal prosecutors in California announced a series of actions Friday targeting what they characterized as the "large, for-profit marijuana industry" that has developed since the state legalized medical marijuana for select patients 15 years ago.

    Four U.S. attorneys -- Benjamin Wanger, Andre Birotte Jr., Laura Duffy and Melinda Haag -- detailed in a joint press release and later press conference in Sacramento some steps that have been taken in conjunction with federal law enforcement and local officials in California.

    They include letters of warning to landlords and lien holders of places in which marijuana is being sold illegally, "civil forfeiture lawsuits against properties involved in drug trafficking activity" and numerous criminal cases. The latter refers to arrests in recent weeks related to cases filed in federal courts in Los Angeles, San Diego, Sacramento and Fresno, all part of an effort that Wagner claimed has resulted in the seizure of hundreds of pounds of marijuana, tens of thousands of plants and hundreds of thousands in cash.

    "The actions taken today in California ... are consistent with the (Justice) Department's commitment to enforcing existing federal laws, including the Controlled Substances Act, in all states," U.S. Deputy Attorney General James Cole said in a news release.

    In 1996, California voters approved Proposition 215 to exempt doctors and seriously ill patients from marijuana laws and allow them to grow and use it in treatment. The bill didn't legalize marijuana for all, but it did lead to the emergence of hundreds of dispensaries where people -- legally only those with medical conditions and a doctor's authorization -- could get the drug.

    Wagner, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of California, told reporters Friday that federal authorities "are not focused on backyard grows with small amounts of marijuana by seriously ill people. We are targeting commercial operations, which profit from growing and distributing ... and often use the trappings of state law for cover, but in fact are abusing state law."
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    Absolute waste of time and money, just legalize it for christ sake, this isn't going to do ****. People are still going to get it, smoke it, watch family guy, eat cookies and go to sleep. And if they last long enough watch Robot Chicken (Which was tailor made for stoners).

    How long does the war on drugs have to continue before someone gets the ****ing message that it ain't working.

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    Re: Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California

    I thought Obama said he wouldn't use Federal resorces against American pot. Is he a liar or did I misunderstand? Its had to tell with all these pro word-smiths running the country.
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    I thought Obama said he wouldn't use Federal resorces against American pot. Is he a liar or did I misunderstand? Its had to tell with all these pro word-smiths running the country.[/QUOTE]

    You are not wrong Obama is a damn liar.

    This was bound to happen sooner or later but I never figured a druggie like Obama would be behind it.

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    Re: Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I thought Obama said he wouldn't use Federal resorces against American pot. Is he a liar or did I misunderstand? Its had to tell with all these pro word-smiths running the country.
    They're abusing state law by giving a prescription to literally anyone who asks for one. Pretty sure that's not what Obama, or the state of California for that matter, had in mind.
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    Re: Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They're abusing state law by giving a prescription to literally anyone who asks for one. Pretty sure that's not what Obama, or the state of California for that matter, had in mind.
    If they go to a doctor and say they are hurt and that doctors deems medical pot can be used then too bad, so sad. Hes still a lair.

    I wonder if they sacked legitimate caregiver grow-ops. (by the wording of the article it appears thats exactly what they targeted and all they targeted[and also the dispensaries], but you can be sure with the news and what really happened.) If so I feel very sorry for all the people who (for whatever reason) cant grow for themselves, and are about to miss out on their dued part of the crop. Go through the government to get approved then have the government storm in and take it all away. Totally hypocritical in nautre.
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    Re: Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California - CNN.com

    Absolute waste of time and money, just legalize it for christ sake, this isn't going to do ****. People are still going to get it, smoke it, watch family guy, eat cookies and go to sleep. And if they last long enough watch Robot Chicken (Which was tailor made for stoners).

    How long does the war on drugs have to continue before someone gets the ****ing message that it ain't working.
    Probably as long as the war on poverty. Except, the war on drugs gives us more bang for our buck.
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    Re: Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Probably as long as the war on poverty. Except, the war on drugs gives us more bang for our buck.
    So true. If we weren't spending so much on stopping people from getting weed, just about anyone could easily get it. Trust me, we don't want to go back to the days when people could easily get stoned and post ironically hypocritical statements in online forums.
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    Re: Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California

    Spending money to destroy plants that cure some conditions, help people deal with others, get pleasure out of, use for spiritual purposes, make an income and create jobs with, all instead of using it give much needed relief to struggling Americans. If our money should have anything to do with marijuana, it would be better off subsidizing it's production.

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    Also, join the Marijuana Party group I made!

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    Re: Federal authorities target 'marijuana industry' in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They're abusing state law by giving a prescription to literally anyone who asks for one. Pretty sure that's not what Obama, or the state of California for that matter, had in mind.
    I think that's entirely what the backers of 215 had in mind, when they wrote it.

    They did not include any reasonable provisions to actually limit the use of “medical” marijuana to those with actual, diagnosed medical conditions for which any credible medical opinion indicated marijuana to be a realistic treatment. I think this omission was intentional; that they really wanted to simply legalize recreational use, knew that they could never get that to pass, so they wrote a measure that could easily be used to disguise just about any use of marijuana as a “medical” use.

    I have mixed feelings about the entire controversy.

    I am firmly convinced that marijuana does more harm than good to those who use it, and to those who are associated with and must depend in any way on those who use it. I think society would be much better off without it, and I wish nobody used it.

    I consider it plausible that it may have some legitimate medical use, but I am very skeptical about nearly all claimed medical uses of it. Due to conflicting political agendas on every side of the controversies about marijuana, I very much doubt if we will ever have any credible consensus on what legitimate medical uses do or do not exist for it.

    I tend to be in favor of keeping the use of marijuana illegal, except where it may be proven to be used in accordance with sound medical principles in the treatment of a properly-diagnosed medical condition.

    I am, however, open to being convinced (not that I have yet been) that greater harm is caused to society in various was by efforts to enact and enforce laws against it than would be caused by the increased use and popularity that woudl result from marijuana being legal.


    And here, I see a conflict being set up that I have long wanted to see fought out and resolved. I am convinced that the federal government has no legitimate authority whatsoever to enact or enforce any laws or regulations regarding the possession or use of marijuana, unless it happens across state or national borders. Per the Tenth Amendment, I believe that this authority belongs exclusively to the states. If any state wants to legalize the use and possession of marijuana within its borders, I believe it has the absolute right and authority to do so. If any state wishes to outlaw the possession and use for marijuana within its borders, then again, it has the absolute right and authority to do so. In neither case do I believe that the federal government has any authority to interfere.

    I would point out that in the 1910s, when there was a strong movement that wanted to ban the sale of alcoholic beverages nationwide, it was clearly understood that no authority existed at the federal level to do so, and that the only way that it could legitimately be done was to amend the Constitution to explicitly give the federal government this authority—hence the Eighteenth Amendment. If we want to ban marijuana at the federal level, then the only way to legitimately do so is to amend the Constitution to give it that authority; until we do so, the federal govenment has no more authority over marijuana than it did over alcohol before the Eighteenth Amendment was ratified, or after it was repealed by the ratification of the Twenty-First Amendment.
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