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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    We all respect the nations Capital.

    But who give two craps about wall street. They can afford maid service.

    Boo-hoo... protests are smelly.
    I guess you missed the mess left behind after BO's emmaculation.......how about more than 100 tons of crap dropped all over the Mall in DC.

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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Why are we still avoiding talking about the message, I wonder who here, both the liberals and conservatives, could actually explain the message this movement is trying to push without googling it first?

    Who the hell cares if the guy is a college student, a hippy, professor, unemployed factory worker, whatever the man is still A) An American and B) to refute someone's argument and to do it in a respectful and intelligent way you have to understand their argument. By refusing to even understand their message you're only furthering your own ignorance, which to me makes your opinion far less valid, since what good is an opinion who's owner won't listen to anything he may disagree with?

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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Why are we still avoiding talking about the message, I wonder who here, both the liberals and conservatives, could actually explain the message this movement is trying to push without googling it first?

    Who the hell cares if the guy is a college student, a hippy, professor, unemployed factory worker, whatever the man is still A) An American and B) to refute someone's argument and to do it in a respectful and intelligent way you have to understand their argument. By refusing to even understand their message you're only furthering your own ignorance, which to me makes your opinion far less valid, since what good is an opinion who's owner won't listen to anything he may disagree with?
    I'm not aware of a coherent message other than, Banks and Wall Street are bad and should be changed / eliminated, and I got that by reviewing a few different interviews in which the interviewee's were less than coherent. It seems very fractured and unfocused actually.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm not aware of a coherent message other than, Banks and Wall Street are bad and should be changed / eliminated, and I got that by reviewing a few different interviews in which the interviewee's were less than coherent. It seems very fractured and unfocused actually.
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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Why are we still avoiding talking about the message, I wonder who here, both the liberals and conservatives, could actually explain the message this movement is trying to push without googling it first?

    Who the hell cares if the guy is a college student, a hippy, professor, unemployed factory worker, whatever the man is still A) An American and B) to refute someone's argument and to do it in a respectful and intelligent way you have to understand their argument. By refusing to even understand their message you're only furthering your own ignorance, which to me makes your opinion far less valid, since what good is an opinion who's owner won't listen to anything he may disagree with?
    Why let facts get in the way of a good Lib-bashing? Especially if you can call them socialist hippies.

    I will say this -- I notice that the ultra-cons are doing exactly what ultra-libs do with the Tea Party.


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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm not aware of a coherent message other than, Banks and Wall Street are bad and should be changed / eliminated, and I got that by reviewing a few different interviews in which the interviewee's were less than coherent. It seems very fractured and unfocused actually.
    I entirely agree, and in my opinion, and I assume yours, they need to figure out some way to organize themselves better so people know what the hell they are trying to get at. Starting with some clear leadership, someone who can "speak for" the group, some clear grievances that they all or mostly agree on, and some solutions to go along with. I know that the whole "This is grassroots! By the People for the People! We all are hear for one thing!" sounds real nice but in reality its entirely impractical and ultimately going to be self defeating because the entire purpose of this event is to get a message across, but without a clear target for that message as well as a clear message, there's really no value in gathering. So really my opinion of the whole Occupy Wall Street is pretty dismissive, because I don't know why the hell they are there.

    One thing the Tea Party knew about itself, I imagine it was partly due to many Republicans who joined up, was to how to organize, and present a fairly consistent message with fairly consistent leaders.

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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Why are we still avoiding talking about the message, I wonder who here, both the liberals and conservatives, could actually explain the message this movement is trying to push without googling it first?

    Who the hell cares if the guy is a college student, a hippy, professor, unemployed factory worker, whatever the man is still A) An American and B) to refute someone's argument and to do it in a respectful and intelligent way you have to understand their argument. By refusing to even understand their message you're only furthering your own ignorance, which to me makes your opinion far less valid, since what good is an opinion who's owner won't listen to anything he may disagree with?
    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Why let facts get in the way of a good Lib-bashing? Especially if you can call them socialist hippies.

    I will say this -- I notice that the ultra-cons are doing exactly what ultra-libs do with the Tea Party.
    Those aren't facts, that's my opinion. I don't mean to be rude but I take the difference very seriously and what I was saying up there isn't factual at all, its merely my opinion that those things should matter more than other things, and that certain things like they're Americans or that I don't care what their profession or life is like matter to me but may not to others, and they matter to me in different degrees than others. Its not factual its just how I see things, an opinion.

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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I expected that this would happen or the Health Department would intercede, because I have seen a number of reporters say that not only did the camps smell to high heaven but the protesters smelled badly.

    Without proper sanitary conditions and showers this was enviable.

    I went to the Haight-Ashbury district of San Francisco twice in the summer of 1967 and it smelled awful as we passed through, my wife at the time was felling sick from it.

    May be authorities will be able to break up this bunch who don't even have a clear message other than rage at the wrong group.


    Owners Of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests | Fox News
    Owners of New York City's Zuccotti [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]Park[/COLOR][/COLOR] may be starting to get fed up with it being occupied.
    Brookfield Office properties, the firm that owns the central location for the Occupy Wall Street protests, has released a statement claiming that they have not been able to properly maintain the park and that sanitation has become a growing concern.

    "Basic rules intended to keep the park safe, open, clean, and welcoming to all visitors are clearly posted," the statement from Brookfield reads. "These rules includes bans on the erection of tents or other structures, as well as the placement of tarps, sleeping bags, or other coverings on the property.

    "Unfortunately, many of the individuals currently occupying the grounds are ignoring these basic yet necessary requirements, which interferes with the use of the park by others."
    I guess no one responded to the call for handouts and that's why they didn't get their free **** houses.
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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I guess no one responded to the call for handouts and that's why they didn't get their free **** houses.
    Uh, what?...
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    Re: Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Why let facts get in the way of a good Lib-bashing? Especially if you can call them socialist hippies.

    I will say this -- I notice that the ultra-cons are doing exactly what ultra-libs do with the Tea Party.
    Except that when we bash the occupiers, we're right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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