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    Re: Bin Laden death: 'CIA doctor' accused of treason

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    The sad part is they probably won't. The CIA has a history of letting the people who helped them get killed, imprisoned, tortured, etc.
    It's a complex strategy called "Handing over hearts and minds".
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    Re: Bin Laden death: 'CIA doctor' accused of treason

    The best option would be to try and buy the guys freedom from the Pakistani government.

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    Re: Bin Laden death: 'CIA doctor' accused of treason

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    That's exactly the response I thought you would provide. Proving my point.

    I'm not defending terrorists, that response clearly shows you cannot comprehend my point that you and I may see those people as terrorists, and I do, and you do, believe me.

    But the ability to understand why some people could see them in a positive light is a skill rather then a weakness, understanding how your enemy thinks and being flexible in understanding different viewpoints is one of many keys to victory.
    This islamic fascist be us or die movement can in no way be called freedom fighters. If you can in any way see their side I guess you can see Satans side too. Damn that sounded religious. LOL

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    Re: Bin Laden death: 'CIA doctor' accused of treason

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This islamic fascist be us or die movement can in no way be called freedom fighters. If you can in any way see their side I guess you can see Satans side too. Damn that sounded religious. LOL
    to say nothing of idiotic
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Bin Laden death: 'CIA doctor' accused of treason

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This islamic fascist be us or die movement can in no way be called freedom fighters. If you can in any way see their side I guess you can see Satans side too. Damn that sounded religious. LOL
    It's simply not that simple.

    Let's try a little pretending, do you remember pretend? Barney the Dinosaur use to teach it to us. Anywho.

    Let's say you're an uneducated farm boy in the mountains of Afghanistan, you don't have anything, I mean like you and your entire family live in a one room hut where you all sleep on the floor and **** outside.

    While you're tending to your small herd an American airstrike destroys your hut and kills your entire family... mom, dad, your two sisters and your baby brother...

    Some guys come to you and ask "Do you wanna get revenge?"

    That doesn't excuse or make me happy that he went into a market and blew himself up, or killed American soldiers. It doesn't.

    But it explains WHY he does what he does, and until you understand that, peel back the "They're all just evil" simpleton viewpoint, only then can you begin to turn back the tide.

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    Re: Bin Laden death: 'CIA doctor' accused of treason

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It's simply not that simple.

    Let's try a little pretending, do you remember pretend? Barney the Dinosaur use to teach it to us. Anywho.

    Let's say you're an uneducated farm boy in the mountains of Afghanistan, you don't have anything, I mean like you and your entire family live in a one room hut where you all sleep on the floor and **** outside.



    While you're tending to your small herd an American airstrike destroys your hut and kills your entire family... mom, dad, your two sisters and your baby brother...

    Some guys come to you and ask "Do you wanna get revenge?"

    That doesn't excuse or make me happy that he went into a market and blew himself up, or killed American soldiers. It doesn't.

    But it explains WHY he does what he does, and until you understand that, peel back the "They're all just evil" simpleton viewpoint, only then can you begin to turn back the tide.
    Actually I heard an interview with a guy on PBS yesterday that wrote a book called Terrorist In Love. Weird freakin title but I am going to read it. It was about how fooked up kids were used and brainwashed to do suicide bombings. Thing is every criminal has a sob story about mommy and daddy and blah blah blah, cry me a river. Understanding terrorist will not stop terrorisim, killing them before they kill us will. Oh and by the way your hero obama is killing more civilians in his drone attacks than Bush ever imagined and "creating terrorist", according to you that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The collusion with terrorist in Pakistan is very worrisome. I feel it is only a matter of time until a nuclear device is handed off to alquiada and 9-11 becomes a small event in comparison. Imagine if NYC was literally wiped off the map. If I was president this would keep me up nights. The first thing I would do is secure our border with Mexico, that I believe would be the point of entry for such a device.
    Imagine something 200 times as huge as 9-11... and that's how many Iraqi civilians died as a result of the US invasion. That should keep everyone up at night.

    The nuclear genie is out of the bottle and can't be put back in. Perhaps a reallocation of "defense" assets from CENTCOM to the homeland would better able to protect us from the threat of a nuclear strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Defending terrorist huh, SHEEESH! You are correct I am not capable of seeing terrorist as freedom fighters.
    That's the point. Terrorism is a tactic, not an ideology, so it has no inherent moral component beyond the fact that it is violent. Violence is always a matter of questionable morality.
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    Re: Bin Laden death: 'CIA doctor' accused of treason

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Actually I heard an interview with a guy on PBS yesterday that wrote a book called Terrorist In Love. Weird freakin title but I am going to read it. It was about how fooked up kids were used and brainwashed to do suicide bombings. Thing is every criminal has a sob story about mommy and daddy and blah blah blah, cry me a river. Understanding terrorist will not stop terrorisim, killing them before they kill us will. Oh and by the way your hero obama is killing more civilians in his drone attacks than Bush ever imagined and "creating terrorist", according to you that is.
    Oh brother.

    Your feeble mind is incapable of grasping my point.

    Obama, Bush, it doesn't matter. Just because I have an opposing viewpoint does not mean I'm all about Obama... but I suppose if you live in the political bizzaro world where you believe only two kind of people exist, conservatives and liberals, then I suppose I can understand where you're coming from

    I should have added my point about how we do need to understand how people become terrorists to cut off the problem at the source, but also deal with these recruiters, the old men hiding behind the Quran, twisting its words to drive men to madness and destruction, they're the real threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This islamic fascist be us or die movement can in no way be called freedom fighters. If you can in any way see their side I guess you can see Satans side too. Damn that sounded religious. LOL
    Every freedom fighter is a terrorist to someone else. Don't get stuck in the 2d flatland paradigm of us and them- it's a complex world.
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