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    Re: Steve Jobs Dead at 56

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    One of the greatest innovators of our age.

    He survives death through his immortal achievements.
    The amount of $$ he spent on advertising was indeed immortal. Too bad he didn't leave any for his FoxConn workers.

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    Re: Steve Jobs Dead at 56

    I am a huge fan of Apple, Mac, iPod, iPhone, Mac OS X etc. Steve Jobs was a great man in the same leagues as Henry Ford or Thomas Edison. His vision and companies (Pixar, NeXT, Apple) directly or indirectly touched every single one of our lives. He is one of my person heroes and his legacy will hopefully live on.
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    Re: Steve Jobs Dead at 56

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    My irony metered just exploded.

    The Westboro douchebags are going to picket Steve jobs funeral, but the interesting thing about it is how it was announced.






    Steve Jobs Funeral To Be Picketed By Westboro Church | WebProNews
    In a twisted sort of way, it's like Westboro is coming to send Jobs off. I agree, he had influence!

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    R.I.P. Mr. Jobs. You were a visionary, and a markedly important influence on the world. You will be missed.

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    Re: Steve Jobs Dead at 56

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The amount of $$ he spent on advertising was indeed immortal. Too bad he didn't leave any for his FoxConn workers.
    What in the hell are you two talking about? Earning money and spending money is immortal to you? I have no reason to follow such idiotic moral practices and I doubt Steve did either. In this world you work to better yourself and to the better the world in the process. Steve Jobs managed to do that very well. RIP Steve Jobs.
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    Re: Steve Jobs Dead at 56

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What in the hell are you two talking about? Earning money and spending money is immortal to you? I have no reason to follow such idiotic moral practices and I doubt Steve did either. In this world you work to better yourself and to the better the world in the process. Steve Jobs managed to do that very well. RIP Steve Jobs.
    jobs was great at making money (via marketing savvy). No argument there.

    But he was not a visionary, which is what people are crediting him for. Visionaries, by definition, are the ones who create and invent.

    And the only thing Apple invented was the first practical PC, but that was not jobs' doing. It was Wozniak's.
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    Good that his suffering is over. May he rest in peace.
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    Re: Steve Jobs Dead at 56

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    jobs was great at making money (via marketing savvy). No argument there.

    But he was not a visionary, which is what people are crediting him for. Visionaries, by definition, are the ones who create and invent.

    And the only thing Apple invented was the first practical PC, but that was not jobs' doing. It was Wozniak's.
    Jobs had hundreds of patents in his name, I'm pretty sure he created one or two things.
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    Re: Steve Jobs Dead at 56

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There's so much falsity in that post I don't know where to begin.

    First, there's a definite noticeable difference between 128 kbps anything and its lossless counterpart. This is especially true in classical music. Try listening to Gluck's "Dance of the Blessed Spirits" in 128 kbps VBR encoded format. It just won't cut it.

    And the reason the open source formats like FLAC have become meaningless is not because of any limitations in the format but because the major record labels refuse to sell their stuff in those formats. Why? Because there's no way to add a watermark to a lossless codec to trace it back to the original purchaser. Plus, the labels simply have an aversion to anything considered "free", period.
    It depends on the person, obviously. And yet, it is also true most people cannot reach 94% when ABX tested with codecs. You would have your head up your butt if you concluded otherwise for most people.
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    Re: Steve Jobs Dead at 56

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post

    Is an iPod that plays only MP3, AAC, WAV, AIFF, and possibly the (proprietary) ALAC better than an iRiver that also plays music encoded in the free FLAC codec?

    Is a music store that forces customers to use iTunes better than one that allows you to buy w/just a browser or any web client?

    Is an iPhone that forces app developers to abide by Apple's restrictive rules and use Apple's SDK and sell only in an Apple store better than an Android phone where anyone can write a Java app using any tool(s) they like and sell it anywhere?

    Is freedom better than captivity?
    Aside from the fact that I do not immensely enjoy the Apple App store's tactics, you are forgetting one important thing: eco-system. What Apple built its philosophy was control but it was a control that was satisfactory for many when it came to the iPod/iTunes, etc. lineup. Most people don't care how developers are treated unless it directly affects them. What they want is something that simplifies the process and does so in a user-friendly way. iTunes provided that way out. You had a fairly decent player, not without its issues, eventually provide a means to listen to, sync, and purchase music. That was quite a bit liberating for most ordinary people. "Power users" are a great deal more comfortable with the notion that you take a little from "here," take a little from "there," in order to come out with an end (or further still, the Foobar 2000 crowd, of which I am a member). However, they too are not immune or feeling repugnant toward this approach. It is also true, many Windows "power users" felt that it was better to operate under the assumption of folders, windows explorer, and so on, but those complaints were far few in comparison with the (at the time) awful Windows programming of iTunes.

    A store under a browser makes the process more complicated, and many people do not like complicated. These stores can have more in the way of specialized selection, slightly better prices, (at the time) better DRM terms, and so forth, but on the whole, most people felt like the Apple ecosystem worked very well in comparison.

    It's not a matter of freedom versus captivity. Those terms are thrown around by the immensely passionate, and perhaps embedded part of hi-tech culture. It's simply what looks like it works best for people at the time.
    Last edited by Fiddytree; 10-06-11 at 08:54 AM.
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