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Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

once i got to that sentence i knew you were confused

No, not so much...Maybe you are....


Hey, check out the wonderful chant of the Zombies....




hahahaha! What is the matter with these people?

j-mac
 
No, not so much...Maybe you are....
ok, then explain why the labor leader would be a socialist, as you stated here:
... Trumpka, who is a socialist in his own right ...


Hey, check out the wonderful chant of the Zombies....




hahahaha! What is the matter with these people?

j-mac
 
ok, then explain why the labor leader would be a socialist, as you stated here:

You'd have to ask him why he is a socialist...

Anyway, I think I saw this guy at the Occupy Wall St. rally....



j-mac
 
Hey Bubba, Check this out...In his own words...

Head of the AFL-CIO, Richard Trumka, says he got into the Labor movement because he wanted to promote “massive social change”, or as we all know it, socialism. Wow. That is a rather stark admission, but Beck said eventually the would start revealing their agenda out in the open.

Trumka: I joined the Union to push socialism | The Right Scoop

Watch the video, it is awsome!


j-mac
 
Please don't be offended but I think maybe some of the protestors might be upset by some thing called speculation, Did you know that people of means can buy oil, never touch it,smell it,store it or do any thing more then hold on to it until they create an artifical shortage and then sell it at a huge profit? That profit causes the price of oil to increase as much as 50% doesn't that suck?

I hate to do this but I'm going to generalize here. I do not disagree that you point out a problem. The problem as I see it though is many that might be complaining are absolutely fine with other programs, ie: no drilling, that drives up the price.

I don't claim that every rich person steals by speculating but it makes you wonder if they were some how not involved in stealing the heat from someone's grandma's house or the food from some poor kid's table. Any how you are not involved in that type of thievery are you? If I was I would be more then happy to help those less fortunate then myself, I mean I could have been without being remotely aware of it. Just in case I made a donation to OWS

Most never actually touch the oil. The problem is not hoarding. If I recall right, a barrel of oil changes hands (on paper) 7-8 times before it is ever used.

IMO we would be far better off if we required you to actually take possession of anything you buy.
 
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Hey Bubba, Check this out...In his own words...



Watch the video, it is awsome!


j-mac

oh yea, it makes so much sense now that you have explained nothing
 
Please don't be offended but I think maybe some of the protestors might be upset by some thing called speculation, Did you know that people of means can buy oil, never touch it,smell it,store it or do any thing more then hold on to it until they create an artifical shortage and then sell it at a huge profit? That profit causes the price of oil to increase as much as 50% doesn't that suck?

I don't claim that every rich person steals by speculating but it makes you wonder if they were some how not involved in stealing the heat from someone's grandma's house or the food from some poor kid's table. Any how you are not involved in that type of thievery are you? If I was I would be more then happy to help those less fortunate then myself, I mean I could have been without being remotely aware of it. Just in case I made a donation to OWS

I saw a great term for the wall street rabble-but I made it slightly more accurate-it came from the ABC board

FLEAS. Freeloading Liberals Endorsing Anarchy
 
Well, he sounds leftist/socialist to me:

[video]http://www.therightscoop.com/trumka-i-joined-the-union-to-push-socialism/[/video]


that is beyond stupid
no other way to put it
that someone who wants to improve our social condition must therefor be a socialist is absurd, by any measure

this is the fellow who heads an organization which seeks to improve the working conditions of union employees

having the community/state as the business owner, as would be the circumstance within a socialist society, would not do anything but make his position more difficult

you must not understand either socialism or unionism ... more likely, you don't grasp an understanding of both
 
I saw a great term for the wall street rabble-but I made it slightly more accurate-it came from the ABC board

FLEAS. Freeloading Liberals Endorsing Anarchy

Turtle - I know you are a serious rock music fan. There is a Bob Dylan song "Ballad of a Thin Man" with this line in it

"because there is something happening here and you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones"?

I think it describes perfectly the fear that so many on the right seem to be expressing by going overboard to mock, ridicule and attack these demonstrations. What is it that you are afraid of with these demonstrations?

I suspect the right sees - for the first time in a long time - a public anger at the wealthy and that worries the right and scares them.
 
I hate to do this but I'm going to generalize here. I do not disagree that you point out a problem. The problem as I see it though is many that might be complaining are absolutely fine with other programs, ie: no drilling, that drives up the price.

US oil refineries are near capacity until new refiners are built drilling will not bring prices down

Most never actually touch the oil. The problem is not hoarding. If I recall right, a barrel of oil changes hands (on paper) 7-8 times before it is ever used
.

I guess you call just call it holding instead of hoarding but the results are the same speculators drive up the price

IMO we would be far better off if we required you to actually take possession of anything you buy.

Speculating is not entirely bad but it should be regulated, profit is not bad to a point, the point ends when the profit made out weighs the value added to the product
 
I saw a great term for the wall street rabble-but I made it slightly more accurate-it came from the ABC board

FLEAS. Freeloading Liberals Endorsing Anarchy

It's apparently bothering you that I am asking if you are involved in speculating or maybe you are just promoting the right wing agenda, let me ask you does it bother you that Americans are expressing their 1st Amendment rights? You better work hard 2012 is not all that far away
 
US oil refineries are near capacity until new refiners are built drilling will not bring prices down

As was the position 10 years ago.

I guess you call just call it holding instead of hoarding but the results are the same speculators drive up the price

I do not disagree but I simply think it's better to be more precise than some conspiracy theory.

Speculating is not entirely bad but it should be regulated, profit is not bad to a point, the point ends when the profit made out weighs the value added to the product

As a general statement I do not disagree.
 
FLEAS. Freeloading Liberals Endorsing Anarchy

Yeah well... This doesn't negate the fact that I am an elastic polymeric substance and you are an adhesive, every talking point you project towards me is reflected and bonded to you.

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that is beyond stupid
no other way to put it
that someone who wants to improve our social condition must therefor be a socialist is absurd, by any measure

this is the fellow who heads an organization which seeks to improve the working conditions of union employees

having the community/state as the business owner, as would be the circumstance within a socialist society, would not do anything but make his position more difficult

you must not understand either socialism or unionism ... more likely, you don't grasp an understanding of both

Well, to be fair it is hard to understand anything coming out of the left, when their definitions to anything fail they just change the definition and say everyone else is stupid for believing what they said before....In any case, che' shirt sales should skyrocket.

j-mac
 
Turtle - I know you are a serious rock music fan. There is a Bob Dylan song "Ballad of a Thin Man" with this line in it

"because there is something happening here and you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones"?

I think it describes perfectly the fear that so many on the right seem to be expressing by going overboard to mock, ridicule and attack these demonstrations. What is it that you are afraid of with these demonstrations?

I suspect the right sees - for the first time in a long time - a public anger at the wealthy and that worries the right and scares them.

astroturf losers recruited by Obama's handlers to divert attention from his incompetence
 
It's apparently bothering you that I am asking if you are involved in speculating or maybe you are just promoting the right wing agenda, let me ask you does it bother you that Americans are expressing their 1st Amendment rights? You better work hard 2012 is not all that far away

I am a contract killer, AKA a cleaner. I only speculate on how long its gonna take to get a job done.
 
US oil refineries are near capacity until new refiners are built drilling will not bring prices down

so what do you say we loosen regulations that would allow fast tracking increasing refinery capacity? Duh......

I guess you call just call it holding instead of hoarding but the results are the same speculators drive up the price

You do understand that commodities speculation like oil is an important way for business to forecast what their future costs will be right? Ummmmm.....

Speculating is not entirely bad but it should be regulated

Is it without regulation now?

profit is not bad to a point, the point ends when the profit made out weighs the value added to the product

And whom decides that? You?

j-mac
 
You do understand that commodities speculation like oil is an important way for business to forecast what their future costs will be right? Ummmmm.....

Indeed but a large percentage that are speculating on it aren't in the oil business.
 
astroturf losers recruited by Obama's handlers to divert attention from his incompetence

How does civil unrest help a sitting president whatsoever? If anything it draws attention to his incompetence.
 
Indeed but a large percentage that are speculating on it aren't in the oil business.

Ok, but my point is that speculation is a business forecasting tool that without, many could not accurately do the jobs that they do, hence they would have to hedge their costs themselves, increasing pricing to the consumer.

j-mac
 
How does civil unrest help a sitting president whatsoever? If anything it draws attention to his incompetence.

And you think that Soros funding this sham, and Unions co opting it have nothing to do with Obama's campaign? Tell us another one please?


j-mac
 
Ok, but my point is that speculation is a business forecasting tool that without, many could not accurately do the jobs that they do, hence they would have to hedge their costs themselves, increasing pricing to the consumer.

j-mac

I have no problem with businesses forcasting their future needs.
 
astroturf losers recruited by Obama's handlers to divert attention from his incompetence

If that is the latest right wing meme, it reveals they are terrified of this entire movement - only really in its beginning stages.
 
If that is the latest right wing meme, it reveals they are terrified of this entire movement - only really in its beginning stages.

Good grief ... guess again !!
 
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