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Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

Kane said:
Those shallow depths are for your statements!

This is what happens when the media is owned by Mickey Mouse, Fox Fascist Warmongers, NBC the Defense contractor, and CNN - the CIA News Network!:roll:
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Your post was tripe. Just 40 years ago you could live in a major metro area, with all of 3-4 channels available on the TV, (ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS if you were lucky) and the daily newspaper. That was it. No talk radio for either side ........ either. Now, we literally have 1000 times more access to information, and you whine this kind of tripe about somehow still being kept in the dark by those in control.

Ignorance is what controls you. Because you let it.

Your original comment was tripe. Can you do better, or are we to expect more such stupidity ?
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Well, your gut may tell you to not put any sticker on your car, for fear of the loons on both sides. However, the challenge stands at least for folks to think about. Google searches with regard to the 2008 election support my contention, but I am not relying on unofficial statistics or reports. Just everyone's own gut feelings.
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I have a problem with "liberals are this" and "conservatives are that". From a lot of posts on this forum you would thing only deadbeats without a job are Dems, but Obama voters according to demographics were more affluent and educated than McCain voters. According to a lot of people Tea Partiers are basically dumb hicks but they actually have a higher rate of college education than the general population and are normally middle class.

If you don't like the Wall st protests because you don't agree with them fine, but don't try to paint them as violent when there's no sign of violence whatsoever based on the broad brush based on identity politics. You do think that's fair right? If they start rioting then I agree they would be violent but someone arrested for walking in a road is not violent.
 
Unions had their place in history much like a wagon wheel, try putting a wagon wheel on a new F-250 4x4 and see how that works.
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I find it interesting that you say this just as people are attacking collective bargaining rights, Presidential canidates mentioning getting rid of minimum wage, special interests groups are pushing for the easing of child labor laws, politicians not only allow but support jobs going overseas, and wages have remained stagnant for decades.

I mean, this is kind of saying we don't need an armed forces, WWI was the war to end all wars as the Germans roll into Poland.
 
iliveonramen said:
I have a problem with "liberals are this" and "conservatives are that". From a lot of posts on this forum you would thing only deadbeats without a job are Dems, but Obama voters according to demographics were more affluent and educated than McCain voters. According to a lot of people Tea Partiers are basically dumb hicks but they actually have a higher rate of college education than the general population and are normally middle class.

If you don't like the Wall st protests because you don't agree with them fine, but don't try to paint them as violent when there's no sign of violence whatsoever based on the broad brush based on identity politics. You do think that's fair right? If they start rioting then I agree they would be violent but someone arrested for walking in a road is not violent.
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And yet with just the Wall Street rally, the number of arrests has exceeding all the arrests of Tea Party folks since the Tea Party came into being ... by a factor of what ? 10 ? 20 ?

Bet your bippy you will see more of this between now and Nov 2012.

How about those conservative flash mobs trashing convenience stores, btw ?
 
And yet with just the Wall Street rally, the number of arrests has exceeding all the arrest ot Tea Party folks since the Tea Party came into being ... by a factor of what ? 10 ? 20 ?
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They walked on a road....honestly eighty that has nothing to do with violence. Like I said, okay, they apparently disregard orders to not walk on roads you happy? We can say the Occupy Wall Street crowd will walk on a road even when prohibited.

Bet your bippy you will see more of this between now and Nov 2012.
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Protests? I'm sure you will. This is a big election in the middle of a recession, I would be suprised if we had no protests.

How about those conservative flash mobs trashing convenience stores, btw ?
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I have no idea what you're talking about honestly.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Your post was tripe. Just 40 years ago you could live in a major metro area, with all of 3-4 channels available on the TV, (ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS if you were lucky) and the daily newspaper. That was it. No talk radio for either side ........ either. Now, we literally have 1000 times more access to information, and you whine this kind of tripe about somehow still being kept in the dark by those in control.
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Ooooh. Don't tase me bro. This ain't a John Kerry event and I didn't say squat about 9/11!:mrgreen:
 
Eighty Deuce said:
And yet with just the Wall Street rally, the number of arrests has exceeding all the arrests of Tea Party folks since the Tea Party came into being ... by a factor of what ? 10 ? 20 ?

Bet your bippy you will see more of this between now and Nov 2012.

How about those conservative flash mobs trashing convenience stores, btw ?
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Which flash mobs? Link please.
 
iliveonramen said:
I have no idea what (flash-mob convenience store theft and vandalism) you're talking about honestly.
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For the two who posted that they are not familiar with this growing phenomenon, I will not derail this thread with it.

For another thread then.

But if curious, Google "Flash mob robberies". 1,040,000 hits in 0.06 seconds. All from this year. Violent liberalism close to you.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
For the two who posted that they are not familiar with this growing phenomenon, I will not derail this thread with it.

For another thread then.

But if curious, Google "Flash mob robberies". 1,040,000 hits in 0.06 seconds. All from this year. Violent liberalism close to you.
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I don't see how those people are displaying any sort of political leanings besides anarchism.
 
iliveonramen said:
I don't see how those people are displaying any sort of political leanings besides anarchism.
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Yeah, I suspected that was what he was talking about. Getting his memes mixed up. That was criminals, not liberals. Unless he was trying to make some kind of twisted racist logic. Flash robbers are (mostly?)black - blacks are liberals - flash robbers are liberals!
 
Redress said:
Got a link? You have not proven to be a reliable source.
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:shrug: NPR All Things Considered, whatever date was playing at 0715 on Oct 6th, 2011 Armed Forces Radio, Okinawa Japan. Typically that's the morning prior to - so the 4th.

funny, however, that you accuse my website of being a right-wing source. reading comprehension much? :)

...Below is a copy and paste of an Official statement from the Occupy Wall Street Protest We at Freerange Press whole heartily endorse the messages below , the cause, and the enthusiastic use of their right to protest in public space....
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Who where these leaders?
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heck if I remember their names. they had one representative from the new york rally and another i think from boston.





but let's make this clear - is it your contention that the wall street protestors are not out there protesting (among agreeably other things) the idea that they should have to pay back their student debt?
 
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iliveonramen said:
I don't see how those people are displaying any sort of political leanings besides anarchism.
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They Are Owed. In addition, there is no overarching Moral Truth that would decry what they do - all moral systems are equal and so who is anyone else to judge.
 
Seems like those upset with the GOP's attempts to mess with Social Security and Medicare are getting ready to join this movement in FL and CA. Think the cops are going to be busting the heads of grannies and papaws or will they be smart enough to avoid that PR nightmare?
 
Redress said:
Again, not from the groups website. I wonder why that is? I wonder why the actual official site has nothing like that that I can find, but does have this page:About Us | OccupyWallSt.org

You are failing pretty miserably at smearing people with lies. Why not try honesty?
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If this is a leaderless group, how can they have a website?

Something seems fishy here.
 
tessaesque said:
Even if 79% agree with that sentiment it has little to do with lounging around for three weeks in protest on Wall St. That ill-designed bailout and stimulus program was put together by our elected officials, using what they believed was the "best" method of stimulating the economy.

I'd much rather spend 3 weeks seeking employment, working, educating myself, and doing what I need to do to secure my future on my own than sitting around shouting about how everything is Wall St.s fault.
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How dare you want to do something for yourself. Bad man. Bad man.
 
They Are Owed. In addition, there is no overarching Moral Truth that would decry what they do - all moral systems are equal and so who is anyone else to judge.
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I don't know why I would argue with you. If you make the jump from flash mobs breaking into shops, beating people up, and vandalising properties to protesting Wall St. Greed and corruption you're not entirely arguing using reason.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
Seems like those upset with the GOP's attempts to mess with Social Security and Medicare are getting ready to join this movement in FL and CA. Think the cops are going to be busting the heads of grannies and papaws or will they be smart enough to avoid that PR nightmare?
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When have NYC cops EVER been smart enough to avoid pretty much ANY PR nightmare?
 
iliveonramen said:
So a website denotes leadership? Normally it would denote communication and providing of a forum of like minded people.
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This entire "movement" is 100% Democrat astroturf. Watch and learn.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
Seems like those upset with the GOP's attempts to mess with Social Security and Medicare are getting ready to join this movement in FL and CA. Think the cops are going to be busting the heads of grannies and papaws or will they be smart enough to avoid that PR nightmare?
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Obama is sinking in Florida. A bunch of freaks, young and old, will not turn that tide for President Zero.
 
UHOH...Libertarians get your hankies out...your hero Ron Paul AGREES with the wall street protesters...

Even a few Republicans made positive remarks: Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), a candidate for the GOP presidential nomination, called the demonstrations “a legitimate effort;” Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer, who’s also running for president, told protesters, “Please know that I stand by you.”


Dems endorse Occupy Wall Street in droves | The Raw Story
 
Mason66 said:
If this is a leaderless group, how can they have a website?

Something seems fishy here.
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This movement is starting to get organized and it will likely be a force in the 2012 election. The GOP's usual tactic of shouting insults, calling them socialists, anarchists, haters of American, Godless criminals, etc. is not working anymore. People have quit believing this nonsense. Even the Gray voters are starting to align with this movement.

This feels a lot like the political wave that got the civil rights act of 1964 passed over the vehement warnings from the GOP that giving Blacks equally would destroy this country and make white people unsafe on streets and in homes. That was poppycock and what you are saying now about the wealthy creating jobs if they are given tax breaks and few regulations is poppycock. The middle class and used to be middle class are taking this country back.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
This entire "movement" is 100% Democrat astroturf. Watch and learn.
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I'm not saying it won't end up being taken over by the Democratic party, that's entirely possible. As it is now, in it's current form it is grass roots. Despitre the rhetoric from the right, the Democratic party is just as pro-Wall Street as the Republican party. Yeah, Obama talks about fat cats but Wall Street donates just as much if not more to Democratic canidates as Republicans. Schumer is a Wall Street guy through and through.

Just like the Tea Partiers are suspicious of Republican politicians because they tend to spend as bad as Democrats.
Liberals are suspicious of the Democratic party because it tends to be as pro-Wall Street and big business as the Republicans.

Lets be honest, coporate money and Wall Street dominates both parties. You can't raise a 500+ million dollar warchest from working stiffs.
 
Kane said:
Those shallow depths are for your statements!

This is what happens when the media is owned by Mickey Mouse, Fox Fascist Warmongers, NBC the Defense contractor, and CNN - the CIA News Network!:roll:
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Brian Williams did do an excellent special on Katrina he did on the anniversary several years ago. I think it was two hours long and really was top-notch.
 
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