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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    this superb column should be read by all

    Herman Cain doesn't realize that young people today do not lack initiative. They lack opportunity - chicagotribune.com

    a taste

    Young people see a dysfunctional political system, in which policies that could alleviate widespread distress and help put the economy back on a path to growth have been declared off limits. They see a political system that makes them suffer — along with middle- and lower-income people of all ages — for the sake of the corporate interests whose money now dominates American government.

    The lion's share of the new wealth the United States economy has generated over the last few decades has gone to the very rich — the "1 percent," as the Occupy Wall Street protesters put it. The rest of us have faced stagnating wages but spiraling costs for the things that are necessary for a secure middle-class life, including housing, education and health care. Many Americans have made up the difference by borrowing. And the fact that middle-class living standards have been maintained at all owes much to the fact that both spouses in a typical household now work — which actually makes families more susceptible to the risks of job loss.
    Those who claim they just do not get what is happening in these protests need to read this article with an open mind.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    this superb column should be read by all

    Herman Cain doesn't realize that young people today do not lack initiative. They lack opportunity - chicagotribune.com

    a taste



    Those who claim they just do not get what is happening in these protests need to read this article with an open mind.
    Have you ever thought that millions of truly successful people CREATED their own opportunity instead of sitting on their asses waiting for someone else to create opportunity for them? How does protesting Wall Street create positive opportunities?

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    Have you ever thought that millions of truly successful people CREATED their own opportunity instead of sitting on their asses waiting for someone else to create opportunity for them? How does protesting Wall Street create positive opportunities?
    Please read the column. Your views are dealt with in it.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Please read the column. Your views are dealt with in it.
    As long as you and others create victims all articles like that do is feed the sheep. I believe in creating your own opportunities and accepting personal responsibility. I see no benefits at all protesting Wall Street as Wall Street doesn't make the laws. Further I see classware as a way to promote the socialist agenda and a lot of good people getting caught up in the rhetoric and ignoring the substance.

    Once I realized what the Democrat Party was doing, I stopped feeling sorry for myself and created my own opportunities. I saw all that spending in the name of compassion as nothing more than creating more dependent people. That change in attitude helped me shake the bonds of liberalism and benefited me greatly.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As long as you and others create victims all articles like that do is feed the sheep. I believe in creating your own opportunities and accepting personal responsibility. I see no benefits at all protesting Wall Street as Wall Street doesn't make the laws. Further I see classware as a way to promote the socialist agenda and a lot of good people getting caught up in the rhetoric and ignoring the substance.

    Once I realized what the Democrat Party was doing, I stopped feeling sorry for myself and created my own opportunities. I saw all that spending in the name of compassion as nothing more than creating more dependent people. That change in attitude helped me shake the bonds of liberalism and benefited me greatly.
    have you read the article yet?

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    have you read the article yet?
    Yes, I read the article, did you? what part of that refutes what I posted? Have you read articles about self made millionaires? What you and others want to ignore is that

    Fortunes are made from being passionate about dreams.
    Read the story of Mark Zuckerberg, age 23 and many other self made millionaires. You won't see them as part of a union or in the Protest Wall Street rallies. They are too busy chasing their dream and making their dreams happen.

    Too many including you prefer to sit back and wait for something to happen or have your union do it for you whereas others are out there making things happen. I like the latter vs the former
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, I read the article, did you? what part of that refutes what I posted? Have you read articles about self made millionaires? What you and others want to ignore is that



    Read the story of Mark Zuckerman, age 23 and many other self made millionaires. You won't see them as part of a union or in the Protest Wall Street rallies. They are too busy chasing their dream and making their dreams happen.

    Too many including you prefer to sit back and wait for something to happen or have your union do it for you whereas others are out there making things happen. I like the latter vs the former
    so my son, a self made multi-millionaire of 26, should not remain there? tell us why
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so my son, a self made multi-millionaire of 26, should not remain there? tell us why
    Remain where? Is your son at the Wall Street rally?

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

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    How about giving us your vision as to the role of the Federal Govt?
    My vision of the federal government is to provide a country that responds to the needs of the majority of the people, let me give you some examples enforcement of the trade agreement, regulatory laws and enforcement of those laws to protect the consumer and the environment of the air, water and land masses

    Ever think that we may be the most Overworked country on the face of the earth because the rewards are there for those that put out the effort?
    First as an employee I never felt over worked, I never felt that I could do more work in 8 hours then was possible, work output differs from one person to another, work ethics aside education and experience can tilt productivity.

    As a manager I felt it was part of my job use those assigned to me in the most productive way possible and to deal with less productive employees in a way that encouraged them to increase their productivity, I will give you a clue happy hands are busy hands

    How do you feel about the following and is this what you condone?
    CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan, Crash The Stock Market, And Redistribute Wealth In America[/QUOTE]

    I don't like to fight but when my back is against the wall those who are confronting me and leaving me little to no choice but to defend myself and those that I love will find l believe in doing what ever it takes to discourage them from a need to repeat the experience again, that said when companies or individuals steal from the people and get no protection from those who are supposed to protect them they may need to organize and use their numbers to convince those companies and individuals that they are capable of defending their selves and their families

    What do I say it looks like the rebirth of the real Boston tea party, scary isn’t it

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    this superb column should be read by all

    Herman Cain doesn't realize that young people today do not lack initiative. They lack opportunity - chicagotribune.com

    a taste



    Those who claim they just do not get what is happening in these protests need to read this article with an open mind.
    Young people have a MASSIVE problem with self discipline and initiative these days.

    Everything is just too easy. You can put together an incredibly impressive report for your high school history teacher or college professor sitting on your coach on a rainy Sunday these days that's due the next day.

    Used to be, it took three days to put together a report that looked half as good but took 10 times the effort. You spent the day at the library, sifting through numerous rabbit trails threw the Dewey Decimal system only to come up with bupkus and have to start again.

    There was no cut and paste graphics or wikipedia that turned everything into perfect Cliff Notes on any subject.

    That carries over to the job field, where no one seems willing to do grimy work while in school or fresh out. It's beneath them and their iLifestyle.

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