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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's actually a good point. I sincerely doubt these people are well read enough to have picked up Trotsky.
    cp - I would doubt that even one-half of one percent of American adults have read Trotsky. And that would apply to all across the political spectrum.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Who are you to generalise about two whole generations of people, and all without any supporting statistics? We are about the same age, and I happen to think the people I went to school with are smart, hardworking people.
    peruse at your pleasure.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Have you actually read the book? If you have, why don't you point out the statistics that support your assertions and its source?

    Showing me a link to a book (the most liked review of which gave it only 1 star) is not providing support for your claims.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Have you actually read the book?
    yup. as well as the work I cited earlier. your testimony that everyone you know is awesome and hard working confirms the tale - we think we are awesome and hard working because we bother to show up.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yup. as well as the work I cited earlier. your testimony that everyone you know is awesome and hard working confirms the tale - we think we are awesome and hard working because we bother to show up.
    Beside falsely attributing claims to me, it still doesn't prove anything. I did not say that everyone I know is awesome and hardworking.

    Further, I didn't say what I think about myself. And you don't know how I come by my opinion. So you just make more claims without support or even knowing anything about who I am or where I went to school. Even if we disregard all these, one person is not prove of anything about the population.

    The flaws in thinking your post highlights make you even less qualified to make generalisations about 2 whole generations.

    If you have read the book, please provide the relevant statistics and its source, it's more interesting than you just sprouting off.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yup. as well as the work I cited earlier. your testimony that everyone you know is awesome and hard working confirms the tale - we think we are awesome and hard working because we bother to show up.
    Whose worker productivety are you formimg your opinion from?

    The U.S. is the Most Overworked Nation in the World

    ■Using data by the U.S. BLS, the average productivity per American worker has increased 400% since 1950. One way to look at that is that it should only take one-quarter the work hours, or 11 hours per week, to afford the same standard of living as a worker in 1950 (or our standard of living should be 4 times higher). Is that the case? Obviously not. Someone is profiting, it’s just not the average American worker.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I really don't know what you were smoking because there has never been Democrat Party.
    There really isn't anything Democratic today in the Democratic Party either, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama have seen to that. "We won, you lost" mentality.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Whose worker productivety are you formimg your opinion from?
    How about giving us your vision as to the role of the Federal Govt? Ever think that we may be the most Overworked country on the face of the earth because the rewards are there for those that put out the effort?

    How do you feel about the following and is this what you condone?

    CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan, Crash The Stock Market, And Redistribute Wealth In America

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    If you have read the book, please provide the relevant statistics and its source, it's more interesting than you just sprouting off.
    i'm getting ready to get on a plane to the Philippines, suffice to say I lack my full library.

    however, the stuff is just a google search away, if you actually care to look into it:

    We do know that narcissism levels among millennials are higher than previous generations and that this rise in narcissism has coincided with the explosion of Facebook,” said Shawn Bergman, an assistant professor of organizational psychology at Appalachian State University in Boone, N.C. “However, our research suggests that SNS usage is not an indicator of narcissism, but rather a product of the times...

    Bergman acknowledges that unraveling the cause of millennial narcissism is complicated, but he has a hunch that it has more to do with offline interactions with parents and educators than online networking.

    “Parents have coddled and overprotected their children more over the generations and have taught them, intentionally or not, to expect special treatment just for being them,” Bergman said. “This, in combination with the ‘self-esteem’ movement in the schools, has likely resulted in increased narcissistic tendencies in our youth.”...
    and so on and so forth. even Boo (and we don't agree on much) will confirm this for you, if not, there are plenty of employer survey's which back it up. our generation expects to be considered awesome and be rewarded just for showing up.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i'm getting ready to get on a plane to the Philippines, suffice to say I lack my full library.

    however, the stuff is just a google search away, if you actually care to look into it:

    and so on and so forth. even Boo (and we don't agree on much) will confirm this for you, if not, there are plenty of employer survey's which back it up. our generation expects to be considered awesome and be rewarded just for showing up.
    I agree with you (and the quote) completely.

    Otherwise wonderful parents have very carefully created unrealistic expectations in their children. In the name of self-esteem, they have created arrogance. Then life hits 'em up the side of the head and they holler, "Not fair!!!!"

    Subjective example #1: 22-year-old married and moved out of state. Anxious for a teaching job in Red Neck territory. I tough sell for a transplant. She sent out dozens of resumes; had a half-dozen or so interviews; and got the call from one of them telling her she'd gotten the job. Was she ecstatic? Did she feel fortunate? Uhhhhh, no. She said to the caller, "I'm going to discuss it with my husband and call you back." The caller said, "We had 200 applicants for this position. We're just going to move on." She was devastated. "That's not fair," she said. She's substituting all over the county this year.

    Subjective example #2: Graduated last year. A teacher who wants to coach basketball at the college level. He can't find a job. Won't even apply for other positions. Lives at home with mom and dad who pay many of his living expenses as he holds out for his dream job. None of this "entry-level" crap for him. Hell, that's everybody's dream job. He's disallusioned. Ya' think??
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