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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I hate to do this but I'm going to generalize here. I do not disagree that you point out a problem. The problem as I see it though is many that might be complaining are absolutely fine with other programs, ie: no drilling, that drives up the price.
    US oil refineries are near capacity until new refiners are built drilling will not bring prices down

    Most never actually touch the oil. The problem is not hoarding. If I recall right, a barrel of oil changes hands (on paper) 7-8 times before it is ever used
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    I guess you call just call it holding instead of hoarding but the results are the same speculators drive up the price

    IMO we would be far better off if we required you to actually take possession of anything you buy.
    Speculating is not entirely bad but it should be regulated, profit is not bad to a point, the point ends when the profit made out weighs the value added to the product

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I saw a great term for the wall street rabble-but I made it slightly more accurate-it came from the ABC board

    FLEAS. Freeloading Liberals Endorsing Anarchy
    It's apparently bothering you that I am asking if you are involved in speculating or maybe you are just promoting the right wing agenda, let me ask you does it bother you that Americans are expressing their 1st Amendment rights? You better work hard 2012 is not all that far away

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    US oil refineries are near capacity until new refiners are built drilling will not bring prices down
    As was the position 10 years ago.

    I guess you call just call it holding instead of hoarding but the results are the same speculators drive up the price
    I do not disagree but I simply think it's better to be more precise than some conspiracy theory.

    Speculating is not entirely bad but it should be regulated, profit is not bad to a point, the point ends when the profit made out weighs the value added to the product
    As a general statement I do not disagree.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post

    FLEAS. Freeloading Liberals Endorsing Anarchy
    Yeah well... This doesn't negate the fact that I am an elastic polymeric substance and you are an adhesive, every talking point you project towards me is reflected and bonded to you.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that is beyond stupid
    no other way to put it
    that someone who wants to improve our social condition must therefor be a socialist is absurd, by any measure

    this is the fellow who heads an organization which seeks to improve the working conditions of union employees

    having the community/state as the business owner, as would be the circumstance within a socialist society, would not do anything but make his position more difficult

    you must not understand either socialism or unionism ... more likely, you don't grasp an understanding of both
    Well, to be fair it is hard to understand anything coming out of the left, when their definitions to anything fail they just change the definition and say everyone else is stupid for believing what they said before....In any case, che' shirt sales should skyrocket.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Turtle - I know you are a serious rock music fan. There is a Bob Dylan song "Ballad of a Thin Man" with this line in it

    "because there is something happening here and you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones"?

    I think it describes perfectly the fear that so many on the right seem to be expressing by going overboard to mock, ridicule and attack these demonstrations. What is it that you are afraid of with these demonstrations?

    I suspect the right sees - for the first time in a long time - a public anger at the wealthy and that worries the right and scares them.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    It's apparently bothering you that I am asking if you are involved in speculating or maybe you are just promoting the right wing agenda, let me ask you does it bother you that Americans are expressing their 1st Amendment rights? You better work hard 2012 is not all that far away
    I am a contract killer, AKA a cleaner. I only speculate on how long its gonna take to get a job done.



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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    US oil refineries are near capacity until new refiners are built drilling will not bring prices down
    so what do you say we loosen regulations that would allow fast tracking increasing refinery capacity? Duh......

    I guess you call just call it holding instead of hoarding but the results are the same speculators drive up the price
    You do understand that commodities speculation like oil is an important way for business to forecast what their future costs will be right? Ummmmm.....

    Speculating is not entirely bad but it should be regulated
    Is it without regulation now?

    profit is not bad to a point, the point ends when the profit made out weighs the value added to the product
    And whom decides that? You?

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You do understand that commodities speculation like oil is an important way for business to forecast what their future costs will be right? Ummmmm.....
    Indeed but a large percentage that are speculating on it aren't in the oil business.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    astroturf losers recruited by Obama's handlers to divert attention from his incompetence
    How does civil unrest help a sitting president whatsoever? If anything it draws attention to his incompetence.
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