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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Really? THATS what concerns you? Not his constant relationship with the president or the financial contributions to his campaign.
    Exercising free speech. That's what's got you upset?

    So, when someone who votes for the Black president or supports him, you find that offensive... the exercising of that particular free speech.


    Buffets investment in Tobacco? Well...
    "Iíll tell you why I like the cigarette business. It costs a penny to make. Sell it for a dollar. Itís addictive. And thereís fantastic brand loyalty."
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    FAIL - you said 'gabillions'. When you get those numbers, please get back to us. Until then - F A I L.

    And you naively tried to portray shorting stocks as a bad liberal thing... that was very humorous.

    A brilliant and wealthy man supports the current President. Stop attacking him for that, you look foolish.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Exercising free speech. That's what's got you upset?

    So, when someone who votes for the Black president or supports him, you find that offensive... the exercising of that particular free speech.




    FAIL - you said 'gabillions'. When you get those numbers, please get back to us. Until then - F A I L.

    And you naively tried to portray shorting stocks as a bad liberal thing... that was very humorous.

    A brilliant and wealthy man supports the current President. Stop attacking him for that, you look foolish.
    but he's a greedy 1%'er.. and therefore worthy of scorn and protest.

    ...or so we are told by those who lean a bit left...

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    None have our freedoms. winners win, losers lose and we subsidize losing way too much so we have too much of it
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    None have our freedoms. winners win, losers lose and we subsidize losing way too much so we have too much of it
    Please don't be offended but I think maybe some of the protestors might be upset by some thing called speculation, Did you know that people of means can buy oil, never touch it,smell it,store it or do any thing more then hold on to it until they create an artifical shortage and then sell it at a huge profit? That profit causes the price of oil to increase as much as 50% doesn't that suck?

    I don't claim that every rich person steals by speculating but it makes you wonder if they were some how not involved in stealing the heat from someone's grandma's house or the food from some poor kid's table. Any how you are not involved in that type of thievery are you? If I was I would be more then happy to help those less fortunate then myself, I mean I could have been without being remotely aware of it. Just in case I made a donation to OWS

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I saw an interview with a wannabe hippie looking kid whining that he had a college education and couldnít get a job. Unemployment for people with a degree is 4.2%, maybe he should of got a degree in something other than liberal arts or just look harder for a job instead of wasting time protesting.
    So now even having a degree is not enough in your book? Do you think every one should/can be a doctor,lawyer, nuclear scientist orrrrrrrrrrrrrr a Wall Street banker or broker? Maybe if those on wall street would invest some of the money they made stealing, did I say stealing I meant investing in schemes to fleece money from the unsuspecting middle class and the poor we would have jobs.

    Please don't be offended but I think maybe some of the protestors might be upset by some thing called speculation, Did you know that people of means can buy oil, never touch it,smell it,store it or do any thing more then hold on to it until they create an artifical shortage and then sell it at a huge profit? That profit causes the price of oil to increase as much as 50% doesn't that suck?

    I don't claim that every rich person steals by speculating but it makes you wonder if they were some how not involved in stealing the heat from someone's grandma's house or the food from some poor kid's table. Any how you are not involved in that type of thievery are you? If I was I would be more then happy to help those less fortunate then myself, I mean I could have been without being remotely aware of it. Just in case I made a donation to OWS

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    but he's a greedy 1%'er.. and therefore worthy of scorn and protest.

    ...or so we are told by those who lean a bit left...
    Who are those?
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Please don't be offended but I think maybe some of the protestors might be upset by some thing called speculation, Did you know that people of means can buy oil, never touch it,smell it,store it or do any thing more then hold on to it until they create an artifical shortage and then sell it at a huge profit? That profit causes the price of oil to increase as much as 50% doesn't that suck?

    I don't claim that every rich person steals by speculating but it makes you wonder if they were some how not involved in stealing the heat from someone's grandma's house or the food from some poor kid's table. Any how you are not involved in that type of thievery are you? If I was I would be more then happy to help those less fortunate then myself, I mean I could have been without being remotely aware of it. Just in case I made a donation to OWS
    Which makes it no different from any other commodity .... DUH !!! Do you think you exagerated a bit with the "50%", btw.

    You make a good argument for why Obama's energy policy is FUBAR though.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's because our current political structure is the result of three "wave" elections - two putting the lefter of the Democrats in power, and one sweeping out the moderate democrats and replacing them with conservative republicans.

    think of a venn diagram.... with very little overlap. there simply isn't enough shared assumption for much meaningful compromise. If I think the way to create jobs is to increase government spending, and you think the way to create jobs is to reduce it, we have what is called "mutually contradicting ideals".



    that is inaccurate, and is the result of PP twisting its' books to provide precisely such a small number. the overwhelming majority of people that go to PP get abortions, but PP counts each procedure separately in order to hide multiple services that are happening simultaneously or one after the other. What Kyle was trying (and failing) to say was that 90% of PP's services to pregnant women consists of abortion. That, too, would be false. the correct number is 98%. According to Planned Parenthood’s 2009 report, it performed 332,278 abortions, saw, 7,021 prenatal care clients, and made 977 adoption referrals.



    this belongs in another thread - but the most vulnerable person in this event is the baby. who is being sawed into pieces while still alive.

    How dishonest. Trying to make the number appears big by focusing on a small section. Are the services it performs for people who are not pregnant not important? Why should we consider only its services to pregnant women, when it provides so many other services to many other people? According to its report, it provided nearly 4m services to do with STD/HIV testing and treatments, is that service not worthy of considerations when looking at funding Planned Parenthood?

    And I would like to see the report you base this claim on: "the overwhelming majority of people that go to PP get abortions"

    According to Planned Parenthood's own report, that is false, and since you also base some of your claims on this same report, therefore must know its content, I would call it a blatant lie.

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/fil...P_Services.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

    Brian

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    How dishonest. Trying to make the number appears big by focusing on a small section. Are the services it performs for people who are not pregnant not important?
    you can argue about their relative importance all day long. that's what he was trying to address.

    And I would like to see the report you base this claim on: "the overwhelming majority of people that go to PP get abortions"

    According to Planned Parenthood's own report, that is false, and since you also base some of your claims on this same report, therefore must know its content, I would call it a blatant lie.
    yes, that is because (as I noted above) PP specifically counts each event separately in order to minimize the focus on paper. so, for example, if you come into PP because you believe you are pregnant and want to abort, and PP confirms that you are pregnant and sets up a date, and then you come back on that date and abort your baby; that is counted as a person coming in for a pregnancy test, and a person coming in for an abortion rather than the same person taking multiple procedures in the process of getting an abortion. slap on a post-abortion checkup and you've already reduced the number of patients receiving abortions to 1/3.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Exercising free speech. That's what's got you upset?

    So, when someone who votes for the Black president or supports him, you find that offensive... the exercising of that particular free speech.




    FAIL - you said 'gabillions'. When you get those numbers, please get back to us. Until then - F A I L.

    And you naively tried to portray shorting stocks as a bad liberal thing... that was very humorous.

    A brilliant and wealthy man supports the current President. Stop attacking him for that, you look foolish.
    Comical...in a thread discussing the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement and people who are really just upset with the influence bankers and stock brokers have over elections and government, you fall all over yourself to defend the second wealthiest man in the country because he is dumping cash into YOUR politicians pocket. Way to typify every myopic partisan hack from both sides of the political spectrum there, Pete...

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