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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Or maybe it's just that they don't want to accept that they are the bottom 10%. Gains are never good for failed investments, be they part of a hedge fund, or a person failing in the job market.
    Really, the two issues are the same thing. People are where they are because the system broke in the 80s and we are now realizing how much it costs to maintain the illusion of a nonbroken system (basis of our current debt problem).
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Which is not how it played out. Southern Democrats, such as Byrd, Gore (Al's dad), Fulbright, etc., did not become Republicans. The vast majority of "Dixiecrats" stayed Democrat, and it was the Republicans that gave LBJ the support he needed to pass his civil rights bill. Look it all up.
    I did.....

    from the article on the 1964 Civil Rights Act from Wikipedia

    By party
    The original House version:[12]
    Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
    Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

    Cloture in the Senate:[13]
    Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%34%)
    Republican Party: 27-6 (82%18%)

    The Senate version:[12]
    Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%31%)
    Republican Party: 27-6 (82%18%)

    The Senate version, voted on by the House:[12]
    Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%37%)
    Republican Party: 136-35 (80%20%)
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    The Democratic party supplied more YES voted to pass the bill than the Republicans did.
    The Republicans voted in higher percentages for the bill than Dems did.

    The votes to pass the bill were truly bipartisan and it could not have been done without support from both parties.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post

    I was one Conservative who held my nose and supported TARP. It worked, and almost all that money has been paid back. But I would have been fine with letting all things fail, to include such as GM, and keeping UI at one year max.

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    Ah yes. It is the rightwing libertarian desire to weaken and even destroy labor unions and the destruction of General Motors would have further that extremist goal. Save the banks - save Wall Street - save corporate America even if it means holding your nose as you claimed you did - but smile from ear to ear and scream loudly for the destruction of the American labor movement.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    What significant political movement wants to literally abolish public schools?
    Retirement? (at most they want to keep it private)
    Health care? (at most they want to keep it private)

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    that would be the libertarian right wing which has now captured the Republican party.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    I hear ya, and that's probably the case.

    But something still doesn't click. Tea Party may have opposed government spending, but the implication was they would be taxed less, and then THEY could decide to fund that road. They did not oppose working to create the things they enjoy, only the government coercion part.

    These protests appear to be much more anti-1%. That of course, carries no such saving grace, it's simply discriminatory fist pounding (so far) aimed at pushing the national debt burden onto people who didn't cause the national debt...
    No, that is just retarded libertarian bull****, which most tea partiers are not.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    The reason most people wouldn't care about lobbying reform is that they don't understand it. They don't know how big of an impact lobbying has on our government and that it almost always comes back to hurt them. There needs to be more transparency about how lobbying works and the effects that it has. These issues need to be described in a simple way that most Americans can understand.
    Or we could stop lowering our standards and start educating poeple. Education will solve everything. I bet 85% of American's can't even tell you who represents them.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokified View Post
    Or we could stop lowering our standards and start educating poeple. Education will solve everything. I bet 85% of American's can't even tell you who represents them.
    If I said, nobody, would I be wrong?

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    If I said, nobody, would I be wrong?
    You beat me to it.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    If I said, nobody, would I be wrong?
    That is what I was going for. Welcome to the upper 15%

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokified View Post
    That is what I was going for. Welcome to the upper 15%
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