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Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

that's actually a good point. I sincerely doubt these people are well read enough to have picked up Trotsky.

cp - I would doubt that even one-half of one percent of American adults have read Trotsky. And that would apply to all across the political spectrum.
 

Have you actually read the book? If you have, why don't you point out the statistics that support your assertions and its source?

Showing me a link to a book (the most liked review of which gave it only 1 star) is not providing support for your claims.
 
Have you actually read the book?

yup. as well as the work I cited earlier. your testimony that everyone you know is awesome and hard working confirms the tale - we think we are awesome and hard working because we bother to show up.
 
yup. as well as the work I cited earlier. your testimony that everyone you know is awesome and hard working confirms the tale - we think we are awesome and hard working because we bother to show up.

Beside falsely attributing claims to me, it still doesn't prove anything. I did not say that everyone I know is awesome and hardworking.

Further, I didn't say what I think about myself. And you don't know how I come by my opinion. So you just make more claims without support or even knowing anything about who I am or where I went to school. Even if we disregard all these, one person is not prove of anything about the population.

The flaws in thinking your post highlights make you even less qualified to make generalisations about 2 whole generations.

If you have read the book, please provide the relevant statistics and its source, it's more interesting than you just sprouting off.
 
yup. as well as the work I cited earlier. your testimony that everyone you know is awesome and hard working confirms the tale - we think we are awesome and hard working because we bother to show up.

Whose worker productivety are you formimg your opinion from?

The U.S. is the Most Overworked Nation in the World

■Using data by the U.S. BLS, the average productivity per American worker has increased 400% since 1950. One way to look at that is that it should only take one-quarter the work hours, or 11 hours per week, to afford the same standard of living as a worker in 1950 (or our standard of living should be 4 times higher). Is that the case? Obviously not. Someone is profiting, it’s just not the average American worker.
 
I really don't know what you were smoking because there has never been Democrat Party.

There really isn't anything Democratic today in the Democratic Party either, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama have seen to that. "We won, you lost" mentality.
 
Whose worker productivety are you formimg your opinion from?

How about giving us your vision as to the role of the Federal Govt? Ever think that we may be the most Overworked country on the face of the earth because the rewards are there for those that put out the effort?

How do you feel about the following and is this what you condone?

CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan, Crash The Stock Market, And Redistribute Wealth In America
 
If you have read the book, please provide the relevant statistics and its source, it's more interesting than you just sprouting off.

:shrug: i'm getting ready to get on a plane to the Philippines, suffice to say I lack my full library.

however, the stuff is just a google search away, if you actually care to look into it:

We do know that narcissism levels among millennials are higher than previous generations and that this rise in narcissism has coincided with the explosion of Facebook,” said Shawn Bergman, an assistant professor of organizational psychology at Appalachian State University in Boone, N.C. “However, our research suggests that SNS usage is not an indicator of narcissism, but rather a product of the times...

Bergman acknowledges that unraveling the cause of millennial narcissism is complicated, but he has a hunch that it has more to do with offline interactions with parents and educators than online networking.

“Parents have coddled and overprotected their children more over the generations and have taught them, intentionally or not, to expect special treatment just for being them,” Bergman said. “This, in combination with the ‘self-esteem’ movement in the schools, has likely resulted in increased narcissistic tendencies in our youth.”...

and so on and so forth. even Boo (and we don't agree on much) will confirm this for you, if not, there are plenty of employer survey's which back it up. our generation expects to be considered awesome and be rewarded just for showing up.
 
:shrug: i'm getting ready to get on a plane to the Philippines, suffice to say I lack my full library.

however, the stuff is just a google search away, if you actually care to look into it:

and so on and so forth. even Boo (and we don't agree on much) will confirm this for you, if not, there are plenty of employer survey's which back it up. our generation expects to be considered awesome and be rewarded just for showing up.

I agree with you (and the quote) completely.

Otherwise wonderful parents have very carefully created unrealistic expectations in their children. In the name of self-esteem, they have created arrogance. Then life hits 'em up the side of the head and they holler, "Not fair!!!!"

Subjective example #1: 22-year-old married and moved out of state. Anxious for a teaching job in Red Neck territory. I tough sell for a transplant. She sent out dozens of resumes; had a half-dozen or so interviews; and got the call from one of them telling her she'd gotten the job. Was she ecstatic? Did she feel fortunate? Uhhhhh, no. She said to the caller, "I'm going to discuss it with my husband and call you back." The caller said, "We had 200 applicants for this position. We're just going to move on." She was devastated. "That's not fair," she said. She's substituting all over the county this year.

Subjective example #2: Graduated last year. A teacher who wants to coach basketball at the college level. He can't find a job. Won't even apply for other positions. Lives at home with mom and dad who pay many of his living expenses as he holds out for his dream job. None of this "entry-level" crap for him. Hell, that's everybody's dream job. He's disallusioned. Ya' think??
 
this superb column should be read by all

Herman Cain doesn't realize that young people today do not lack initiative. They lack opportunity - chicagotribune.com

a taste

Young people see a dysfunctional political system, in which policies that could alleviate widespread distress and help put the economy back on a path to growth have been declared off limits. They see a political system that makes them suffer — along with middle- and lower-income people of all ages — for the sake of the corporate interests whose money now dominates American government.

The lion's share of the new wealth the United States economy has generated over the last few decades has gone to the very rich — the "1 percent," as the Occupy Wall Street protesters put it. The rest of us have faced stagnating wages but spiraling costs for the things that are necessary for a secure middle-class life, including housing, education and health care. Many Americans have made up the difference by borrowing. And the fact that middle-class living standards have been maintained at all owes much to the fact that both spouses in a typical household now work — which actually makes families more susceptible to the risks of job loss.

Those who claim they just do not get what is happening in these protests need to read this article with an open mind.
 
this superb column should be read by all

Herman Cain doesn't realize that young people today do not lack initiative. They lack opportunity - chicagotribune.com

a taste



Those who claim they just do not get what is happening in these protests need to read this article with an open mind.

Have you ever thought that millions of truly successful people CREATED their own opportunity instead of sitting on their asses waiting for someone else to create opportunity for them? How does protesting Wall Street create positive opportunities?
 
Have you ever thought that millions of truly successful people CREATED their own opportunity instead of sitting on their asses waiting for someone else to create opportunity for them? How does protesting Wall Street create positive opportunities?

Please read the column. Your views are dealt with in it.
 
Please read the column. Your views are dealt with in it.

As long as you and others create victims all articles like that do is feed the sheep. I believe in creating your own opportunities and accepting personal responsibility. I see no benefits at all protesting Wall Street as Wall Street doesn't make the laws. Further I see classware as a way to promote the socialist agenda and a lot of good people getting caught up in the rhetoric and ignoring the substance.

Once I realized what the Democrat Party was doing, I stopped feeling sorry for myself and created my own opportunities. I saw all that spending in the name of compassion as nothing more than creating more dependent people. That change in attitude helped me shake the bonds of liberalism and benefited me greatly.
 
As long as you and others create victims all articles like that do is feed the sheep. I believe in creating your own opportunities and accepting personal responsibility. I see no benefits at all protesting Wall Street as Wall Street doesn't make the laws. Further I see classware as a way to promote the socialist agenda and a lot of good people getting caught up in the rhetoric and ignoring the substance.

Once I realized what the Democrat Party was doing, I stopped feeling sorry for myself and created my own opportunities. I saw all that spending in the name of compassion as nothing more than creating more dependent people. That change in attitude helped me shake the bonds of liberalism and benefited me greatly.
have you read the article yet?
 
have you read the article yet?

Yes, I read the article, did you? what part of that refutes what I posted? Have you read articles about self made millionaires? What you and others want to ignore is that

Fortunes are made from being passionate about dreams.

Read the story of Mark Zuckerberg, age 23 and many other self made millionaires. You won't see them as part of a union or in the Protest Wall Street rallies. They are too busy chasing their dream and making their dreams happen.

Too many including you prefer to sit back and wait for something to happen or have your union do it for you whereas others are out there making things happen. I like the latter vs the former
 
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Yes, I read the article, did you? what part of that refutes what I posted? Have you read articles about self made millionaires? What you and others want to ignore is that



Read the story of Mark Zuckerman, age 23 and many other self made millionaires. You won't see them as part of a union or in the Protest Wall Street rallies. They are too busy chasing their dream and making their dreams happen.

Too many including you prefer to sit back and wait for something to happen or have your union do it for you whereas others are out there making things happen. I like the latter vs the former

so my son, a self made multi-millionaire of 26, should not remain there? tell us why
 
How about giving us your vision as to the role of the Federal Govt?

My vision of the federal government is to provide a country that responds to the needs of the majority of the people, let me give you some examples enforcement of the trade agreement, regulatory laws and enforcement of those laws to protect the consumer and the environment of the air, water and land masses

Ever think that we may be the most Overworked country on the face of the earth because the rewards are there for those that put out the effort?

First as an employee I never felt over worked, I never felt that I could do more work in 8 hours then was possible, work output differs from one person to another, work ethics aside education and experience can tilt productivity.

As a manager I felt it was part of my job use those assigned to me in the most productive way possible and to deal with less productive employees in a way that encouraged them to increase their productivity, I will give you a clue happy hands are busy hands

How do you feel about the following and is this what you condone?

CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan, Crash The Stock Market, And Redistribute Wealth In America[/QUOTE]

I don't like to fight but when my back is against the wall those who are confronting me and leaving me little to no choice but to defend myself and those that I love will find l believe in doing what ever it takes to discourage them from a need to repeat the experience again, that said when companies or individuals steal from the people and get no protection from those who are supposed to protect them they may need to organize and use their numbers to convince those companies and individuals that they are capable of defending their selves and their families

What do I say it looks like the rebirth of the real Boston tea party, scary isn’t it
 
this superb column should be read by all

Herman Cain doesn't realize that young people today do not lack initiative. They lack opportunity - chicagotribune.com

a taste



Those who claim they just do not get what is happening in these protests need to read this article with an open mind.

Young people have a MASSIVE problem with self discipline and initiative these days.

Everything is just too easy. You can put together an incredibly impressive report for your high school history teacher or college professor sitting on your coach on a rainy Sunday these days that's due the next day.

Used to be, it took three days to put together a report that looked half as good but took 10 times the effort. You spent the day at the library, sifting through numerous rabbit trails threw the Dewey Decimal system only to come up with bupkus and have to start again.

There was no cut and paste graphics or wikipedia that turned everything into perfect Cliff Notes on any subject.

That carries over to the job field, where no one seems willing to do grimy work while in school or fresh out. It's beneath them and their iLifestyle.
 
Yes, I read the article, did you? what part of that refutes what I posted? Have you read articles about self made millionaires? What you and others want to ignore is that



Read the story of Mark Zuckerberg, age 23 and many other self made millionaires. You won't see them as part of a union or in the Protest Wall Street rallies. They are too busy chasing their dream and making their dreams happen.

Too many including you prefer to sit back and wait for something to happen or have your union do it for you whereas others are out there making things happen. I like the latter vs the former
AGAIN, showing your ignorance on subjects you know nothing about(that being unions, but they are for another topic)...a simple yes or no would have sufficed ....the question i asked had nothing to do with me, but, you had to go and try and make it personal.
 
from Conservative on the Sanchez column about the Wall Street protests and the inability of some to "get it"

As long as you and others create victims all articles like that do is feed the sheep.


I have never created any victims. On the other hand, we have predatory loan practices, rampant and wild speculators, dishonest Wall Street pimps and hustlers and corporate greed leaving behind in their wake an every growing list of victims.


I believe in creating your own opportunities and accepting personal responsibility.

Great. So do I. So does almost everyone I know of and associate with. So what?


I see no benefits at all protesting Wall Street as Wall Street doesn't make the laws
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Of course you make a conscious decision NOT to see what would otherwise disturb you. Wall Street may not directly make any laws but they certainly find a way to get many of the laws they desire which benefits them tremendously.

Further I see classware as a way to promote the socialist agenda and a lot of good people getting caught up in the rhetoric and ignoring the substance.


In a nation where 1% control 42% of the wealth and 5% control 69% of the wealth and 10% control 90% of the wealth, class warfare has been waged successfully by the wealthy for a very long time now. No less than one of the lands wealthiest billionaires - Warren Buffet - says so.


Once I realized what the Democrat Party was doing, I stopped feeling sorry for myself and created my own opportunities. I saw all that spending in the name of compassion as nothing more than creating more dependent people. That change in attitude helped me shake the bonds of liberalism and benefited me greatly.

Every man for himself may work on a sinking ship... but it is bad for a sustainable nation of 300 million people.
 
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Young people have a MASSIVE problem with self discipline and initiative these days.

Everything is just too easy. You can put together an incredibly impressive report for your high school history teacher or college professor sitting on your coach on a rainy Sunday these days that's due the next day.

Used to be, it took three days to put together a report that looked half as good but took 10 times the effort. You spent the day at the library, sifting through numerous rabbit trails threw the Dewey Decimal system only to come up with bupkus and have to start again.

There was no cut and paste graphics or wikipedia that turned everything into perfect Cliff Notes on any subject.

That carries over to the job field, where no one seems willing to do grimy work while in school or fresh out. It's beneath them and their iLifestyle.

My oh my but where have I heard that type of grousing about the young generation before?

"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise
[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint" (Hesiod, 8th century BC).
 
My oh my but where have I heard that type of grousing about the young generation before?

"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise
[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint" (Hesiod, 8th century BC).

Didn't know you were that old.
 
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