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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Most Americans were, and are, conservative, which is what made their country great. It inspired people around the world and attracted the best and brightest from everywhere.

    The Tea party has largely gone silent. They have sent their message and the politicians have received it. There is nothing the Wall street protesters can do about it.
    How did conservatism make this country great? I guess I'll break it down into two questions:

    1. Why is this country great?

    2. How are those reasons related to the conservative ideology?

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Popular can be a lot of different things.... popular as in agreed with or neutral, or popular as in hated and "unpopular"? I'd certainly agree liberal issues are sexier than conservative issues.
    Popular as in poll higher.

    Two things Bush was rated highest for in his terms as president: Afghanistan and Medicare prescription drug coverage. One is nonpartisan(at the time), one is a very liberal policy. SS/Medicare are two of the most popular government programs. It goes on and on.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not anymore, they're not.
    This is an interesting article on that subject
    Why most Americans are both liberal and conservative - CSMonitor.com

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Most Americans were, and are, conservative, which is what made their country great. It inspired people around the world and attracted the best and brightest from everywhere.

    The Tea party has largely gone silent. They have sent their message and the politicians have received it. There is nothing the Wall street protesters can do about it.
    I know this is a lost cause...but you can back this up somehow? You have some data to show this is true?
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Calling names is cool!
    So you concede that point. Glad I could help.

    Because that's completely what they've said! The politcal spectrum cannot be fit into two boxes, more taxes and less taxes! Like you told me earlier read a book!
    Quote them. The quote from the link on this thread I posted was that the 1% needs to pay. By all means, tell me what they are precisely protesting and what their suggested solution is. I'm all eyes!

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    People are supposed to direct their representatives, is the point!
    But you're right, that some members of congress have championed this, and when they do the public reception of lobbying reform, is lukewarm, so they drop it. People just don't really care about it. It's lonely at the top Maggie. If you have your head screwed on straight, and I think you do, you are in the MINORITY. You always will be. A quarter is too young to know better. A quarter is too old to care. And the rest of us are trying to raise kids and earn a living while taking care of aging parents and the black sheep of the family.

    Make a post about lobbying reform, and then make one about gay marriage. Which one gets the press more reliably?
    Why is CNN almost like a tabloid? People don't really care about the key issues, they care about the interesting ones, the emotional ones, etc.



    Who does congress answer to again?
    They clearly answer to their sponsors.

    94% of victors in federal elections had the most money.

    And that money DID NOT come from "average citizens".

    It DID come in the form of investments, with hope for return, from monied interests.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Depends actually. Self labeling, you are correct. When presented with issues, liberal issues are more popular.
    As Obama would say .... "WTF". Where are they "more popular" ? Not in Nov 2010 they were not. Not in the latest polls that show Obama dropping like a rock, losing by 6 points to "any Republican". Not in the way Democrat Senators won't touch his JOBS plan.

    A bunch of astro-turf loons on Wall Street does not a popular movement make. If you believe this will translate to momentum for liberal politicians in the polls 13 months from now ....... I'll be one of the first to say "I told you so" to all this failed liberal nonsense.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It is the fault of the system that allows unlimited terms in Congress...incumbant advantage...and, most of all, the fact that Congressmen have put us on the road to ruin by giving away the U.S. Treasury in order to be re-elected. 545 people create all the problems and then run on platforms that tell us how it needs to be fixed. I figure it's pretty much hopeless.
    I agree with your assessment but don't think it's yet hopeless. The American people have had setbacks before but their spirit and resilience have always led them back to the top. And while I don't believe the present crop of Americans have the same backbone as their ancestors, I think there are still enough around who take sufficient pride in their country and themselves to turn it around.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote them. The quote from the link on this thread I posted was that the 1% needs to pay. By all means, tell me what they are precisely protesting and what their suggested solution is. I'm all eyes!
    Where does it say Wall Street needs "to pay".
    Occupy Wall Street | NYC Protest for American Revolution

    Occupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%.

    I see greed and corruption mentioned not anything about paying...

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post

    Make a post about lobbying reform, and then make one about gay marriage. Which one gets the press more reliably?
    Why is CNN almost like a tabloid? People don't really care about the key issues, they care about the interesting ones, the emotional ones, etc.
    You're spot on, but who is it that draws attention to abortion rights, Gay marriage, more social programs, etc. while economic responsibilities go unmentioned?

    That is not to say these issues are not important, but surely the economy and welfare of the country should come first. Only then can any other issues be seriously addressed

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