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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Really? Constant Wall Street deregulations due to pressure from the Financial Industry? Fannie and Freddie basically buying Congress on both sides of the aisle? Heavy lobbying to neuter the Dodd financial regulation bill? The fact from the Federal Reserve to the Treasury department is a revolving door with Wall Street?
    You have no clue what a corrupt system is. Go read some books of other countries, even present-day, and come back and apologize.

    I'll tell you what's corrupt, the majority of the U.S. population. They can, at any given time, eliminate lobbying, or reform the fiancial industry, etc. But they have no will to do it, no vision. Much easier to just blame everyone else isn't it. Easier to just raise taxes on people earning more than them, and eliminate much of their own tax burden. Talk about corruption....
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Who was calling the shots at Fannie and Freddie?
    The CEO's....

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I'm expecting the "lpast" ex-Republicans to jump aboard at any minute.

    There's an amazing amount of congruence between OWS and the Tea Party, actually. At the heart of their messages.
    The Tea Party had a clear message concerning over regulation and high taxes. This group trying to take over Wall street (and they are only inconveniencing the public) has no real message.

    The Tea Party was very successful in the last elections and will be successful in the next. They realize that their message has been distorted by the Left and their media so will meet less frequently in large gatherings. There is little further point in doing so, given the negative response they get from the dwindling numbers Leftists.

    But you can bet they'll be out in full force on election day, and it is their influence which will most effect the next government.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And what did their heroes do since? Social legislation and obstruction.
    Last time I checked, buyers remorse has set in pretty strongly among those ever-critical independents.
    Wrong. They put up a headline grabbing, consistent message that government spending must slow.
    And what's the other half of the U.S. economic problem right now? Government spending/debt.
    What's the issue in the Eurozone? Government over-****ing-spending.

    Happens to be a key issue. What are the wall-street clowns protesting? The desire essentially, to tax the wealthy. If you think taxing the wealthy is the primary cause fo the economic downturn, please consider that you're in fantasy-land.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    You have no clue what a corrupt system is. Go read some books of other countries, even present-day, and come back and apologize.
    Why don't you define when a system is too corrupt. It seems you don't deny corruption just how extreme.
    I'll tell you what's corrupt, the majority of the U.S. population. They can, at any given time, eliminate lobbying, or reform the fiancial industry, etc. But they have no will to do it, no vision. Much easier to just blame everyone else isn't it. Easier to just raise taxes on people earning more than them, and eliminate much of their own tax burden. Talk about corruption....
    Ummm...isnt' that what this protest about. You apparently rant that people don't have the will to cause change then rant at the people that do.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm guessing that works both ways, Dino.
    The difference is the left was not saying the Tea-Baggers were undermining the very fabric of our society and driving our economy into the ground, etc. because they were rallying. Nor was the left justifying brut-force on Tea-Baggers with 'they had it coming' type rhetoric. They just noted their ideas were out-there-flapping.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how long between rosa's bus ride and the '64 equal rights legislation?

    and you expect something to come of this in a few days?
    That this rally is looking more and more like the civil rights rallies and the anti-Vietnam war rallies is exactly what has the financial institutions and their stockholders worried. Things might actually get changed if politicians who are supporting their being self-regulatory, given lower tax rates and bailed-out when needed get booted out of office.

    This is not a right wing or left wing movement exclusively. There are people on both sides who want more external oversight and no more bailouts. The financial industry and the wealthy are trying to use the pundits and MSM outlet they own to keep those on the right who hold these views from figuring that out and joining the occupy Wall Street movement.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Why don't you define when a system is too corrupt. It seems you don't deny corruption just how extreme.
    Ummm...isnt' that what this protest about. You apparently rant that people don't have the will to cause change then rant at the people that do.
    Name a human organization of significant size that has NO corruption, as you loosely define it.
    Think mcfly.

    What are they looking to change again? Taxing other people? What a just cause. Discrimianting against the "top 1% income earners"? What the **** is that. Are they protesting the top 1% wealthy, or just income? Was it high income earners that caused the financial crisis? Good gods.
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    I'll tell you what's corrupt, the majority of the U.S. population. They can, at any given time, eliminate lobbying, or reform the fiancial industry, etc. But they have no will to do it, no vision. Much easier to just blame everyone else isn't it. Easier to just raise taxes on people earning more than them, and eliminate much of their own tax burden. Talk about corruption....
    The majority of the U.S. population cannot eliminate lobbying or reform the financial industry. Congress can do that -- and they choose not to. Obama hasn't done it; Bush didn't do it; nobody in Washington is going to do it -- and they're the only ones who can. As to raising taxes? We can't do that either. Thank Washington. I'm tired of regular ordinary American citizens being blamed for the problems our Congress has created. And people foolish enough to believe that "the people" are responsible are part of the problem. They are not!
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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Maybe. But don't underestimate the power of ignorance and laziness empowered by democracy!
    No, never! But most Americans are not lazy and ignorant. That tends to be the reserve of the you-know-who.

    Most Americans know their country has been politically hijacked and they want something done about it quickly. It has to be done quickly.

    The problem they have right now is, as the great William Buckley said, selecting the most conservative candidate who can win. And if they feel he or she is not conservative enough to get the country back on track, they'll certainly let it be known. Whoever it might be will be a one-termer, like Obama, until a genuine conservative is elected.

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    Re: Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Name a human organization of significant size that has NO corruption, as you loosely define it.
    Think mcfly.
    Calling names is cool!
    What are they looking to chanage again? Taxing other people? What a just cause.
    Because that's completely what they've said! The politcal spectrum cannot be fit into two boxes, more taxes and less taxes! Like you told me earlier read a book!

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