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    Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/us...r.html?_r=1&hp

    Hiring Locally for Farm Work Is No Cure-All
    Six hours was enough, between the 6 a.m. start time and noon lunch break, for the first wave of local workers to quit. Some simply never came back and gave no reason. Twenty-five of them said specifically, according to farm records, that the work was too hard. On the Harold farm, pickers walk the rows alongside a huge harvest vehicle called a mule train, plucking ears of corn and handing them up to workers on the mule who box them and lift the crates, each weighing 45 to 50 pounds.
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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    They won't work for the wage offered, which means wages go up in order to bring in willing workers.

    The bad thing is that they are competing against neighboring states employing low wage labor in the form of illegals. I have no problem with work visa's or whatever. I have a problem with illegals coming in and getting Chinese slave labor wages driving down wages of all American unskilled workers.

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Pay more, it's that simple.
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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Pay more, it's that simple.
    BAH its SO simple.

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    BAH its SO simple.
    Seriously though, the farm jobs posted on the DOL website list that they're seasonal, pay less than $10 an hour and there is pretty much no room for advancement.
    Plus you have to compete with things like unemployment insurance, which makes it really not worth working so hard for the same money.

    The only way to get around those things is to pay more.
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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    The only way to get around those things is to pay more.
    How to compete with the farm that hires mexican labor then?
    What about competing in a market?

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    How to compete with the farm that hires mexican labor then?
    What about competing in a market?
    how about fining those employers who hire illegals?

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY
    How to compete with the farm that hires mexican labor then?
    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    how about fining those employers who hire illegals?
    That wouldn't change the fact that there are plenty of farms employing Mexican labor in Mexico which can produce the same stuff much cheaper. Fines, protectionism, immigration crackdowns, and other ways to artificially make prices more expensive are not good for the economy. And the people harmed most of all are those who can least afford it.
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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    How to compete with the farm that hires mexican labor then?
    What about competing in a market?
    That is competing in a market.
    Farmer can't hire illegal Hispanic laborers, so they must employ legal local laborers that require more pay for the same work.

    Of course we could always end unemployment benefits, because they are also in direct competition for those workers as well.

    When unemployment pays the same as what a job would, or nearly so, there is no benefit to working.
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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    That wouldn't change the fact that there are plenty of farms employing Mexican labor in Mexico which can produce the same stuff much cheaper. Fines, protectionism, immigration crackdowns, and other ways to artificially make prices more expensive are not good for the economy. And the people harmed most of all are those who can least afford it.
    I'm not overly familiar with produce. Like the cost of shipping fresh produce. Can you grow everything in Mexico that's currently grown here?

    I do know not all illegal labor is in farming and there are jobs not transportable to Mexico that they are doing. I had my house reroofed and the contractor had about 8 illegals (guessing but I would bet a majority were) work on the roof. That's work Americans could do, would do (have done in the past) but can't compete with under the table workers.

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