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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well then that is the heart of our disagreement, not immigration policy. I think he should be able to hire legal immigrants and US citizens for $3 an hour too, if he can find any who are willing to work for that price. If he can't, then that suggests to me that we should legalize many of those illegal immigrants who ARE willing to work for those wages.
    Illegals who are legalized will be no different than those who already refuse to work for $3.00 an hour. Or is it your position we only legalize them if they are wiling to work for $3.00 an hour?

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    We need not take in everyone in the world, but the current level of illegal immigration is not a problem.
    They are leaving my state. Where do you live? As you think illegal aliens are not a problem perhaps we should post signs, in Spanish, telling the illegals which state to head toward.

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    They are leaving my state. Where do you live? As you think illegal aliens are not a problem perhaps we should post signs, in Spanish, telling the illegals which state to head toward.
    There are approximately 10 million illegals in a country of 300 million. Why do you think that is an issue?
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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Illegals who are legalized will be no different than those who already refuse to work for $3.00 an hour. Or is it your position we only legalize them if they are wiling to work for $3.00 an hour?
    Legal immigrants and US citizens are, on average, much better educated/skilled than illegal immigrants, so it's simply not true that if you legalize some or all illegal immigrants that they'll be no different. Their newfound immigration status won't change the types of jobs which they are qualified to work. We'll still need people to pick strawberries and wash tables for $3 per hour, and many of the workers will simply continue working the same jobs that they were working anyway. And if some of them are able to get an education/skill and move up the chain to higher-paying jobs, that's great.
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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    They are leaving my state. Where do you live? As you think illegal aliens are not a problem perhaps we should post signs, in Spanish, telling the illegals which state to head toward.
    I live in DC, and we welcome them with open arms.
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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    There are approximately 10 million illegals in a country of 300 million. Why do you think that is an issue?
    Those numbers come from a group that supports open borders. Others state is likely closer to 20 million.

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Legal immigrants and US citizens are, on average, much better educated/skilled than illegal immigrants, so it's simply not true that if you legalize some or all illegal immigrants that they'll be no different. Their newfound immigration status won't change the types of jobs which they are qualified to work. We'll still need people to pick strawberries and wash tables for $3 per hour, and many of the workers will simply continue working the same jobs that they were working anyway. And if some of them are able to get an education/skill and move up the chain to higher-paying jobs, that's great.
    Please feel free to back up your accusations that those who come here illegally are less educated than those who we allow in legally. Sure we allow in engineer's but we also allow in those who drive taxi's, work at the local mexican restuarant or fast food joint.

    You don't build houses with the no skill uneducated population.

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    There are approximately 10 million illegals in a country of 300 million. Why do you think that is an issue?
    In Alabama there are an estimated 75,000 illegal aliens. They take jobs they do not have a right to take. They commit crimes we would not otherwise see. They consume taxpayer funded benefits like education, health care and other things.

    So we have made it uncomfortable to be an illegal alien in Alabama. And we have made it uncomfortable to hire illegal aliens in Alabama. Now we need to craft the law so that it is uncomfortable for churches to provide support to illegal aliens. I would like to see tax-exempt status withdrawn for any church that aids any illegal activity, including aiding illegal aliens.

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I live in DC, and we welcome them with open arms.
    Yes you do. And soon you shall have all you might ever want.

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    Re: Farmers Strain to Hire American in Place of Migrant Labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Legal immigrants and US citizens are, on average, much better educated/skilled than illegal immigrants, so it's simply not true that if you legalize some or all illegal immigrants that they'll be no different. Their newfound immigration status won't change the types of jobs which they are qualified to work.
    The fact someone is legal means that they can work for honest companies.Meaning they do not have to work for substandard wages and dishonest businesses that hire illegals will just find more illegals just like those in 1986 did after the Reagan Amnesty was passed.
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