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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It most certainly will increase if the cartels are forced into making it their profit centers.
    I really tend to disagree. There's no concievable way that the Mexican drug cartels will do more business if the US were to decriminalize or legalize pot. If you think otherwise, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    The TV is saying rich donors were funding the chicks legal bills, not BRIBERY in the literal but figuratively.

    Donald Trump was mentioned on Headline News last night, a horrid source of info, I admit. Its still gaming the system, like the NASA chick who plotted to kill and drove in diapers across the country, she got off too, to save the govmnt embarrassment. Are you telling me, that this ATF story is not driven by coverups and PR spin since CBS News first uncovered it?

    The mainstream media including the Wa Ho Po are renaming it into a Hollywood movie, lying about WH involvement, etc. Its called the Gunwalker Scandal!
    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    I really tend to disagree. There's no concievable way that the Mexican drug cartels will do more business if the US were to decriminalize or legalize pot. If you think otherwise, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
    A drug cartel recently pulled their money out of a Wachovia branch and the thing nearly collapsed according to the newspaper. The cartel became miffed about the ongoing gun battles, the article said.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Let me try to post the proper material in this forum.

    ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010 - CBS News Investigates - CBS News


    Question.......should Holder resign or should he be charged with perjury? The man is a flat out lying POS yet he runs the DOJ. Can anyone imagine what the dem's would have done to Bush if he had done the same thing? They would have pushed for impeachment with Bush. Has any democrat ever spoken out about this insane policy?
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    Kinds of makes you wonder if that is connected to this.


    Obama blames U.S. guns in Mexico - Washington Times

    Of course it is. Obama's covert and conspiratorial attempt at gun control. Holder is in on it and guess who else? Clinton, Schumer, and Whitehouse...


    Was Operation Gunrunner a Pet Project of Gun-Control Senators? - Yahoo! News

    Attorney General Eric Holder, questioned by Issa's committee, says he didn't learn of the operation until "weeks ago" and President Barack Obama said he hadn't heard of it either.

    It's possible that Melson's operation was given tacit approval in a milieu of silence, referencing the policies of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and three ardent anti-gun senators: Dianne Feinstein, Charles Schumer, and Sheldon Whitehouse.

    Earlier this month, the three senators sent a report to a congressional subcommittee recommending an expansion of ATF cooperation with Mexico to curtail U.S. gun sales.

    Conspicuously lacking in the senators' report are any recommendations on border security. A real plan to secure the borders would interdict drug, human, and gun smuggling, were that the real intent.

    The entire purpose of Operation Gunrunner seems to be to fulfill the wishful thinking of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who made common ground with Mexico's leaders in stating that Mexico's drug violence stems from lax American gun laws.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    I really tend to disagree. There's no concievable way that the Mexican drug cartels will do more business if the US were to decriminalize or legalize pot. If you think otherwise, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
    I don't understand why people feel changing the arguements to suit their viewpoint is a valid positions to take.

    I said that if pot revenue dry's up they will do everything they can to increase the sales of harder drugs.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    That baseball guy got put through the ringer for lieing to congress, Clinton got impeached, Holder will not get through this. He will resign because he has become to much of a distraction for the great obama, in other words, lie down Eric the bus is coming.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Let me try to post the proper material in this forum.

    ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010 - CBS News Investigates - CBS News


    Question.......should Holder resign or should he be charged with perjury? The man is a flat out lying POS yet he runs the DOJ. Can anyone imagine what the dem's would have done to Bush if he had done the same thing? They would have pushed for impeachment with Bush. Has any democrat ever spoken out about this insane policy?
    It isn't over yet. I may go higher than Holder. I'm thinking State had to be aware and that would mean Hillary was read in at some point. In fact, it appears this crap has been going on as far back as 2006. A great deal more than perjury could be involved. Fast and Furious was wrong, wrong and wrong. Being non-partisan I have the luxury of believing wrong is wrong no matter who does it. Would they have impeached Bush? Not likely and you have nothing to prove or hint that they would.

    Mexico is a good neighbor. Reverse the situation, how would we feel if Mexico was smuggling guns by the thousands into NYC? What our government has been doing is really wrong on so many levels, illegal on so many more that it is mind boggling. Holder may do a Libby on this if the Democrats can cover it up enough to stop it at Holder. They may not be able to stop it there. No administration should deceive the American People, but they will if they can.

    If there is solid proof that it's been going on since 2006 that's a whole new bucket of worms. In a strange way it may mitigate some of the damage on Democrats. Hard to say at this point.

    S0 - I say let the chips fall where they may and may those who are found guilty of breaking the law be held accountable. I'm all for that. Would you agree? That would include the former Bush Administration as well. I'm thinking you couldn't actually handle equal treatment across the board. May you could. You don't sound as if you are capable.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    That baseball guy got put through the ringer for lieing to congress, Clinton got impeached, Holder will not get through this. He will resign because he has become to much of a distraction for the great obama, in other words, lie down Eric the bus is coming.
    I hope he squeals like a piggy and rats on everyone he thinks was involved.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    If pot is legalized, it will hurt a lot of the smaller operations in the US, the nickle and dimers, their distributers, etc...not the HUGE cartels. Because those cartels are diversified. They have blow. They have opium.

    There are tobacco companies who ALREADY have pot fields growing in other countries, awating the day the US legalizes pot. Once the FDA gets involved, the small time growers will not be able to compete, because they will not be able to afford to adhere to all of the regulations the FDA will require of the product. And a once naturally growing, fairly unmolested product will go the way of pretty much everything else this country grows.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    If pot is legalized, it will hurt a lot of the smaller operations in the US, the nickle and dimers, their distributers, etc...not the HUGE cartels. Because those cartels are diversified. They have blow. They have opium.

    There are tobacco companies who ALREADY have pot fields growing in other countries, awating the day the US legalizes pot. Once the FDA gets involved, the small time growers will not be able to compete, because they will not be able to afford to adhere to all of the regulations the FDA will require of the product. And a once naturally growing, fairly unmolested product will go the way of pretty much everything else this country grows.
    That would not be legalizing it. That would be handing it to coporations. If it was legal for anyone to grow their own 6 plants like for california licensed individuals thats enough to never have to pay for people that are smart enough to understand the plant. Then stupid people would pay for chemical infested corporation weed.

    Many people that are addicted wouldnt get a license anyway and still pursue the black market. They wouldnt want their name in some database. It would deal a blow to large and small time dealers. But who gives a **** about them.

    And it would hurt the cartels, even if just slightly or a small jab. Stopping any of their traffic is a slight win.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    That baseball guy got put through the ringer for lieing to congress, Clinton got impeached, Holder will not get through this. He will resign because he has become to much of a distraction for the great obama, in other words, lie down Eric the bus is coming.
    Blankfein lied in sworn testimony and nobody seems to care.

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