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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I don't think it was specifically to attack our 2nd amendment rights (and I'm a big 2nd amendment defender btw) I think it was more like they wanted to throw the anti-Gun lobby a bone and saw this as an opportunity to do that. I would think the opportunity just presented itself and it wasn't planned that way. Saying it was planned would give wayyyyy too much credit to this Administration.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    I run hot and cold on this administration. On some days I think they are cunning radicals, on other days I think they are a bunch of stumbling morons.
    The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

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    I think that assuming the government incompetent is not really wise. Because no one in their right mind would think its a good idea giving drug gangs in another country who not subject to our laws or jurisdiction a **** load of weapons unless there was a ulterior motive.
    Part of me knows you probably right, the other part says these guys in the White House and DoJ are book smart and real world dumb. It probably sounded really good on paper but reality is, it was some real dumb **** to try... everyone at the lower levels knew it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    You'll know he's resigning as soon as he says he isn't.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Don't you people KNOW ANYTHING?

    If the story is rarely mentioned on MSNBC and liberal talk radio, that means Obama shouldn't be impeached no matter how illegal the policy was!

    After all, only 30,000 Mexicans have been killed in the drug war, after some 3000 guns delivered, whats all the fuss about?

    I thought you people were smart.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Holder should be in an orange jump suit right about now but you know this president is not going to do anything about it. Hopefully the Republican that gets elected in 2012 will pursue this until every last one of these crooks is behind bars where they deserve to be.

    I dont think there has been a more crooked administration in US history, you'd think the Chicago mob was running the country. With that said I dont think many in the goverment controlled Liberal press are going to make much of this ( except CBS) and the drones will still come out in force to vote for him, although too many people have now caught on and I doubt he gets relected.

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    This is one of the fishiest of things that has happened in the wacky world of covert government ops in a long time. Yes, Holder must go, but the story is much bigger than him. The US is pretty obviously playing games with the cartels, and my personal belief is that this was a completely intentional arms transfer that somehow got out into the daylight. I bet Alex Jones and Mike Ruppert are having a field day with this one.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    The real answer is to legalize pot and put the cartels out of business.
    Cocaine & Heroin too? I dont think so... pot is hardly the problem here.

    Considering the piles of bodies & mass graves turing up down there I'd think it would be perfectly justified to start taking out these cartel leaders with drone strikes as it seems to be working fairly well against Al Qaeda whom hasnt killed as many recently as these drug lords have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Cocaine & Heroin too? I dont think so... pot is hardly the problem here.

    Considering the piles of bodies & mass graves turing up down there I'd think it would be perfectly justified to start taking out these cartel leaders with drone strikes as it seems to be working fairly well against Al Qaeda whom hasnt killed as many recently as these drug lords have.
    Pot is worth hundreds of millions of dollars a year to the cartels, and is by far their largest export. As for the coke and smack, let's decriminalize pot first then reevaluate a few years later. Doubling down on a drug war that is impossible to win is not the answer.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    Pot is worth hundreds of millions of dollars a year to the cartels, and is by far their largest export. As for the coke and smack, let's decriminalize pot first then reevaluate a few years later. Doubling down on a drug war that is impossible to win is not the answer.
    Actually it is a lot harder to smuggle pot across the border (because it requires alot more space) than the others and less profitable.
    There is also alot of pot grown up here in and outdoors and also in Canada, so they have more competition.

    I agree with you on decriminalization but not legalization.

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