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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Personally, I'm tired of the suggestion that every politician we disagree with should be in jail.
    The lib's put Scooter Libby behind bars for misleading statements on a crime he didn't commit......Holder sat in front of Congress and simply lied under oath. He should get a perp walk right into a booking cell.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    The lib's put Scooter Libby behind bars for misleading statements on a crime he didn't commit
    BS, Libby was briefed almost a dozen times about who Plame was BEFORE the Tim Russert conversation in which he insisted to the GJ he was surprised to learn who Plame was. Not to derail the thread or anything, it's just a pet peeve of mine when people don't understand the four counts Libby was convicted of and that they were in-fact 100% legitimate, and try to claim he was convicted for a crime he didn't commit.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Personally, I'm tired of the suggestion that every politician we disagree with should be in jail.
    Even when they commit a felony directly related to the function of their office?
    If we cannot jail them under those circumstances, then when?

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Even when they commit a felony directly related to the function of their office?
    If we cannot jail them under those circumstances, then when?
    I'd have to agree. What I don't want is political witch hunts. But there does need to be proper oversight and people breaking the law and rules MUST be punished. Seriously, if it were any of us, do you think the government would hesitate to come after us? Hell no! What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and they can be brought up on charges when they break the law too. It's necessary.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    BS, Libby was briefed almost a dozen times about who Plame was BEFORE the Tim Russert conversation in which he insisted to the GJ he was surprised to learn who Plame was. Not to derail the thread or anything, it's just a pet peeve of mine when people don't understand the four counts Libby was convicted of and that they were in-fact 100% legitimate, and try to claim he was convicted for a crime he didn't commit.
    I was talking about the "crime" that started the investigation....Libby didn't "out" Plame.

    If Libby can serve time, Holder should as well.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Holder has been nothing but incompetant from the day he got the job. He's done nothing but make Obama look bad.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post
    lying to Congress isnt a agree/disagree situation.......especially when the topic at hand resulted in the death of a US Border agent, heck even John Mitchell (Nixon's AG) pulled time for conspiracy, obstruction of justice and perjury for Watergate and nobody died
    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    The lib's put Scooter Libby behind bars for misleading statements on a crime he didn't commit......Holder sat in front of Congress and simply lied under oath. He should get a perp walk right into a booking cell.
    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Even when they commit a felony directly related to the function of their office?
    If we cannot jail them under those circumstances, then when?
    Honestly, I don't know what federal perjury statutes look like. Most state perjury laws require that the lie be about a material fact. Then you have to go on to prove that it was an actual lie, not a mistake or something. I'm not standing up for Holder, here. This was a horribly bad plan and really should probably end his career as AG, but just as I'm annoyed when folks claim Bush and Cheney belong in prison () simply because these folks didn't like them, I'm also not willing to say Holder belongs in jail.

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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
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    ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010 - CBS News Investigates - CBS News


    Question.......should Holder resign or should he be charged with perjury? The man is a flat out lying POS yet he runs the DOJ. Can anyone imagine what the dem's would have done to Bush if he had done the same thing? They would have pushed for impeachment with Bush. Has any democrat ever spoken out about this insane policy?
    Kinds of makes you wonder if that is connected to this.


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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Kinds of makes you wonder if that is connected to this.


    Obama blames U.S. guns in Mexico - Washington Times

    Of course its linked to that perspective. BO and Holder wanted to plant guns in Mexico as a means to attack our 2nd amendment rights. They hoped to show US sold guns were eventually used by drug cartel members. They didn't expect to be caught doing the "planting". Now they are in cover-up mode and Holder is simply too stupid to pull it off effectively.
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    Re: ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Let me try to post the proper material in this forum.

    ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010 - CBS News Investigates - CBS News


    Question.......should Holder resign or should he be charged with perjury? The man is a flat out lying POS yet he runs the DOJ. Can anyone imagine what the dem's would have done to Bush if he had done the same thing? They would have pushed for impeachment with Bush. Has any democrat ever spoken out about this insane policy?
    There should be special counsel assigned to investigate, because I don't trust the likes of Darrell Issa, a slime-ball who deserves to be impeached on far more tenable grounds.

    I can't find a video that shows the full context of the alleged perjury. So I can't judge whether or not Holder was honestly confused when he answered "a few weeks ago." It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility, but things like lying happen all the time too, especially in Washington.

    And P.S., Democrats probably could have impeached Bush on a number of grounds, and didn't.
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