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    Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    AUSTIN, Texas (AP) Eleven years ago, when the NAACP stepped up a campaign to remove the Confederate battle flag from statehouses and other government buildings across the South, it found an opponent in Rick Perry.
    I am really torn on this one. True, the Confederate flag represents slavery to most people, as the primary purpose in the South's secession was their insistence that they had the right to slavery. But it goes much deeper than that. The Stars and Bars also represents the South's view that the North supported slavery too.... The kind of slavery that comes with one region imposing it's will on another. Yea, I know, I know, it's not the same thing, but there was a culture in the South that saw the big Government of the North as a dictator. In that sense, the Confederate flag represents small government. From the Revolution onward, the South was the poster child for smaller government, and has always been.

    To the KKK'ers who fly the Confederate flag, **** you. I know what kind of people you are. To the others who fly it, you have my blessing. I understand that the Confederate flag represents a philosophy of smaller government that is returning, after having been.... gone with the wind.... Yea, had to rip that line to set up my closing statement. As much as I detest Rick Perry, I see no problem with his supporting Confederate symbols. As for the politically correct who want to ban those symbols, frankly, I don't give a damn.

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    People have every right to fly the Confederate flag if they wish to do so. Over time the flag has been demonized and the people who wish to fly it called racists or ignorant. People often forget that Abraham Lincoln ran a tyranny that suspended freedoms such as Habeas Corpus that should never have been suspended. The Southern states had a right to secession according to the US Constitution (remember that thing?). He invaded a country that had been sovereign since before he was even inaugurated and is responsible for the bloodiest war in American history with over 600,000 killed and countless wounded and with their lives destroyed.

    And even in 2011 people are frowned upon and attacked for flying a flag representing that sovereign country.

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    I mean, I understand the history of the flag, but it is just a symbol. It has as much power as we give it.
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    By the way, why do you hate Rick Perry?

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    Flying the confederate flag at state houses SHOULD be illegal, regardless of what it means to who. That is PUBLIC property, paid for and maintained by that public's tax money. If there is so much as just ONE tax payer that doesn't want that flag, that flag should not be flown, period, end of discussion.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    When you read the text of speeches and news articles from the early 1860s it becomes clear the Civil War was not primarily about slavery. It was about States rights to independently govern (Confederacy) versus over Federal government rights to force states to adhere to central laws (United States). Slavery was one of several issues that lead to the war. The biggest issue was the federal government attempting to levy a tariff on goods the south was selling to other countries. This was the primary reason southern states started seceding from the US and the secession was why Lincoln went after them with military force.

    Slavery was added as a reason for the war later by Lincoln as support for the protracted and bloody war was fading. Most in the north opposed slavery on moral grounds and Lincoln exploited that to gain support for the war.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Flying the confederate flag at state houses SHOULD be illegal, regardless of what it means to who. That is PUBLIC property, paid for and maintained by that public's tax money. If there is so much as just ONE tax payer that doesn't want that flag, that flag should not be flown, period, end of discussion.
    I'm sure there is more than one taxpayer who does not want the American flag flown over state houses as well.

    Should we take them down too?

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Flying the confederate flag at state houses SHOULD be illegal, regardless of what it means to who. That is PUBLIC property, paid for and maintained by that public's tax money. If there is so much as just ONE tax payer that doesn't want that flag, that flag should not be flown, period, end of discussion.
    with this kind of thinking there wouldnt be another flag of any kind ever raised up a pole again.......ever

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    No, because the american flag is the current symbol for our country. Without which, we could get confused as to WHICH state those house belong. When you go to another country, and you need to visit the US embasy there, if there is one, you go to the building flying the US flag, not the stars and bars.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    When you read the text of speeches and news articles from the early 1860s it becomes clear the Civil War was not primarily about slavery. It was about States rights to independently govern (Confederacy) versus over Federal government rights to force states to adhere to central laws (United States). Slavery was one of several issues that lead to the war. The biggest issue was the federal government attempting to levy a tariff on goods the south was selling to other countries. This was the primary reason southern states started seceding from the US and the secession was why Lincoln went after them with military force.

    Slavery was added as a reason for the war later by Lincoln as support for the protracted and bloody war was fading. Most in the north opposed slavery on moral grounds and Lincoln exploited that to gain support for the war.
    make no mistake, slavery was THE underlying issue which divided the nation
    state's rights was only an argument used in the defense of slavery
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