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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I do in fact, see some missing information.... a very good explanation as to why I didn't know this and why it all seems so very very new.

    Is this a current Teachers Guide? And if you don't mind --- just tell me the State in which it's used?
    It's an online teacher's resource, meant for a teacher covering that part of American History and looking for information on the web. There are lots of online sources, some with detailed lesson plans. It's a great resource, but, like other things on the web, not to be taken as the final word.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Here it is. Anthony Johnson, himself a former slave, became the first slave owner in the colonies when he owned one John Casor.

    The first slaver was a black man. Interesting bit of history, isn't it?
    How was he the first slave owner if he's a former slave? Wouldn't the "former slave" bit indicate that he was somebody's slave first?


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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How was he the first slave owner if he's a former slave? Wouldn't the "former slave" bit indicate that he was somebody's slave first?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059861582


    or read the Wiki on it.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How was he the first slave owner if he's a former slave? Wouldn't the "former slave" bit indicate that he was somebody's slave first?
    From the link:

    During this time in the Virginia colony, the Africans were held in indentured servitude and were often released after a set period
    So, technically, he wasn't a slave, but an indentured servant.

    Yes, it is kind of splitting hairs to call him the first slaver, but he was a slaver, and he was a black man.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    There were no 'black soldiers' that fought alongside white soldiers - at least not in the confederacy. There were slave owners who rented their slaves to the confederate military, but the Conferate Congress didn't authorize black troops until March of 1865 - a month before the war ended. Try reading a little history before you make a fool of yourself.

    Confederate Law authorizing the enlistment of black soldiers, March 13, 1865, as promulgated in a military order

    You unreconstructed Rebels are a hoot. You got your asses handed to you because you went to war to protect your right to buy and sell other human beings. Great cause.
    March of 1865? Are you currently aware of when the Civil War ended?
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    There were no 'black soldiers' that fought alongside white soldiers - at least not in the confederacy. There were slave owners who rented their slaves to the confederate military, but the Conferate Congress didn't authorize black troops until March of 1865 - a month before the war ended. Try reading a little history before you make a fool of yourself.

    Confederate Law authorizing the enlistment of black soldiers, March 13, 1865, as promulgated in a military order
    March of 1865? Are you currently aware of when the Civil War ended?

    You unreconstructed Rebels are a hoot. You got your asses handed to you because you went to war to protect your right to buy and sell other human beings. Great cause.

    Reconstructed rebel? hardly! In actuality, I'm a country ass nigger from north Louisiana--whose ggg-grandfather was a slave at Kateland Plantation in Rapides Parish and I have the docs to prove it--that is hitorically literate and isn't fooled anymore by the bull**** revisionist hitory that your side wants us to believe.

    Let's stop acting like black soldiers got a great shake from the United States, since while in service to the U.S. Army, they were in segregated units and either used for forced labor at Hilton Head, or as cannon fodder at places like Fort Wagner in South Carolina, where the 54th Mass. took 99% casualties, or Slaughter's Field, at Port Hudson, where 600 black soldiers were used as bullet stoppers by Banks, when probing the Confederate lines.

    You wanna keep living a lie? That's your business. Keep one thing in mind while doing so: you disgrace the sacrifice of every black soldier that has ever worn the uniform of an American soldier and sacrificed his life to protect his home.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    First, you have to separate yourself from the fiction that all blacks in the South were slaves. After that, it will be easier to accept the fact that black soldiers served in the ranks, along with white soldiers.

    The Confederate Army had desegregated units before the United States Army, by nearly 100 years.

    It's just history, friend, nothing to be afraid of.
    Again, you simply ignore the history of the United States and instead prefer some alternate version of Rebel nonsense. I just provided you with a copy of the Act by the confederate Congress that authorized black troops one frickin' month before the war ended. What is it that you don't understand?

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    March of 1865? Are you currently aware of when the Civil War ended?
    Yes, April of 1865. So the great Confederacy, running out of soldiers and having its ass kicked, decided to swallow its pride and enlist black troops. The condition was that they might be freed by their masters after the war if they did a good job! You folks are amazing!

    You had them for less than one month. Maybe you could blame your defeat on them?
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by dixiesolutions View Post
    Obama in just 3 years has spent and given away more U.S. dollars, than the past 5 president combined.
    Where the hell have you been?
    God I wish you guys had succeeded and formed your own country. We'd have insisted you couldn't have any more slaves, of course, but it would have been worth it just to be rid of you.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    March of 1865? Are you currently aware of when the Civil War ended?




    Reconstructed rebel? hardly! In actuality, I'm a country ass nigger from north Louisiana--whose ggg-grandfather was a slave at Kateland Plantation in Rapides Parish and I have the docs to prove it--that is hitorically literate and isn't fooled anymore by the bull**** revisionist hitory that your side wants us to believe.

    Let's stop acting like black soldiers got a great shake from the United States, since while in service to the U.S. Army, they were in segregated units and either used for forced labor at Hilton Head, or as cannon fodder at places like Fort Wagner in South Carolina, where the 54th Mass. took 99% casualties, or Slaughter's Field, at Port Hudson, where 600 black soldiers were used as bullet stoppers by Banks, when probing the Confederate lines.

    You wanna keep living a lie? That's your business. Keep one thing in mind while doing so: you disgrace the sacrifice of every black soldier that has ever worn the uniform of an American soldier and sacrificed his life to protect his home.
    At least they weren't slaves. Your position is bizarre, but then there were Jews that worked for the Nazis, believing that they might live a little longer if they did so. Any black man today who defends the Confederacy and slavery is nuts.

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