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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    The Stars & Bars is a symbol of oppression and rebellion to defend that oppression.

    its that simple. Defending it is defending the indefensible.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Live Free View Post
    By the way, why do you hate Rick Perry?
    I don't actually hate anybody, but I do dislike Rick Perry because he is not who he claims to be. He has raised taxes on tobacco and alcohol, attempted to force school girls to receive vaccinations for a vaccine that had not been fully tested on humans, waived safety requirements for Mexican trucks to operate on Texas roads, while American drivers still must have the same tests, sent an innocent man to the death chamber, and then attempted to cover it up, added thousands of public sector jobs, at taxpayer expanse, and then has the gall to tell us that he increased the number of jobs in Texas, gave away control of our toll roads to companies in Mexico and China, and all of this is just the tip of the iceberg. No matter what Perry says, his own actions show that he is a liar. Perry is big government personified. However, I am willing to defend him on his use and support of Confederate symbols because some of his detractors (Ironically, most are Republicans) are attempting to make him out to be a racist, which he is not.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    No, because the american flag is the current symbol for our country. Without which, we could get confused as to WHICH state those house belong. When you go to another country, and you need to visit the US embasy there, if there is one, you go to the building flying the US flag, not the stars and bars.
    Right, if I need to find the American Embassy building I would find the one with the American flag.

    So?

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Stars & Bars is a symbol of oppression and rebellion to defend that oppression.

    its that simple. Defending it is defending the indefensible.
    nope, the Stars & Bars is a symbol of sovereignty or seccession with a significance of strength and progress......the flag took on many different looks and designs but the one most are familiar with is the battle flag which has 13 stars (one for each state in the confederacy) and the diagonal cross as opposed to an upright cross to avoid religious objection. A white supremecist group after the war did use the stars and bars as THEIR symbol as they intimidated minorities and people have been led to beleive that is a symbol of oppression....but actually slavery was very acceptable under the Stars and Stripes until it was outlawed.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I am really torn on this one. True, the Confederate flag represents slavery to most people, as the primary purpose in the South's secession was their insistence that they had the right to slavery. But it goes much deeper than that. The Stars and Bars also represents the South's view that the North supported slavery too.... The kind of slavery that comes with one region imposing it's will on another. Yea, I know, I know, it's not the same thing, but there was a culture in the South that saw the big Government of the North as a dictator. In that sense, the Confederate flag represents small government. From the Revolution onward, the South was the poster child for smaller government, and has always been.

    To the KKK'ers who fly the Confederate flag, **** you. I know what kind of people you are. To the others who fly it, you have my blessing. I understand that the Confederate flag represents a philosophy of smaller government that is returning, after having been.... gone with the wind.... Yea, had to rip that line to set up my closing statement. As much as I detest Rick Perry, I see no problem with his supporting Confederate symbols. As for the politically correct who want to ban those symbols, frankly, I don't give a damn.

    Article is here.
    I wouldn't even say that that was the South's primary reason. Other than that, I think you're more or less spot on. I know a lot of people that fly Confederate flags and not one of them are racist. They just have the mentality that a states right is greater than a countries rights and that big government has ruined America.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Also, people should not comment on things they don't understand. That is all.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Stars & Bars is a symbol of oppression and rebellion to defend that oppression.

    its that simple. Defending it is defending the indefensible.
    Is it really that simple though?

    Why do you support denying people the right to fly the flag?

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    The Confederate Flag represents people who didn't even want to belong to the union. Along with that issue is the fact that it represents slavery, racism and all the rest of that fun stuff. I'm really bored of the whole "but it's just innocent history" BS. No it's not.

    But if he defended it because of free speech, I don't have a problem with that. If he defended it because he thinks it has value, **** him.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    The US Flag flew over US slave ships. The US Flag flew over ships that often brought slaves to America from Africa and/or transported them from New York and other northern ports to ports in the South. The Confederate flag never flew over a slave ship.










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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The US Flag flew over US slave ships. The US Flag flew over ships that often brought slaves to America from Africa and/or transported them from New York and other northern ports to ports in the South. The Confederate flag never flew over a slave ship.
    err....did the Confederate flag ever fly over a ship used to fight against the rebellion that sought to defend slavery?

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