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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It would destroy the bull**** version of history they learned and force them admit that their passions have been misguided for a very long time.

    You know damn well, they'll never mention black soldiers that fought along side white soldiers, during the war.
    yeah....about 15 of them.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    I don't see the Stars and Bars as representing Slavery any longer. I believe to the People who either flay or have it on a wall in the house it's about being a Rebel form the South.

    Yes there are some who are Racist who fly in like Biker Gangs and the KKK.

    Everyone knows that Pirates were ruthless cut throats with little regard for human life, so why is it the Oakland Raiders logo does not generate protests?
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    I am not defending Perry as I know how what it means to Black people I am just saying that not everyone sees it that way.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    becasue they didn't own them to "own" them.....

    they participated in the full slave economy. For example, a freedman named Cyprian Ricard purchased an estate in Louisiana that included 100 slaves

    poor widdle wiberwal, anything to avoid painting negores as anything other than a victim.

    and, afterall, isn't that the entire objective of the left? keep telling black folks how unfair the system is, keep telling them they are victims, keep telling them that they can never accomplish anything without the assistance of the democrats?
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, was that how it worked?!?

    I would love to see something other than an internet blog to support that bull****.
    Are there any credible historians who verify this? I mean, such a thing should be one of those "eye opening" portions of history that should be fairly sought after.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Absolute unreconstructed rebel fiction. You want us to believe that blacks enjoyed being bought and sold and raped and murdered so much they couldn't wait to risk their lives to ensure that it continued?
    First, you have to separate yourself from the fiction that all blacks in the South were slaves. After that, it will be easier to accept the fact that black soldiers served in the ranks, along with white soldiers.

    The Confederate Army had desegregated units before the United States Army, by nearly 100 years.

    It's just history, friend, nothing to be afraid of.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    yeah....about 15 of them.
    More likes thousands. But, I know you won't let the facts get in your way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    over 2000 free blacks in Louisianna joined the confederate army and fought against the union.
    that's just not true, oscar. they were members of a militia, not the confederate army. most scholars do not believe a significant number of free blacks served in the army. this seems to be an unbiased article:

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    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Are there any credible historians who verify this? I mean, such a thing should be one of those "eye opening" portions of history that should be fairly sought after.
    look up Cyprian Ricard, freedman who bought a plantation in Louisianna that had 100 slaves. I'm sure he didn't own them in order to "own" them.


    any more than the blacks in africa who sold the slaves to whitey owned them in order to "own" them.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    that's just not true, oscar. they were members of a militia, not the confederate army. most scholars do not believe a significant number of free blacks served in the army. this seems to be an unbiased article:

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    ah, even better. they were part of the volunteer militia and not the paid army. they fought for the south for free.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Are there any credible historians who verify this? I mean, such a thing should be one of those "eye opening" portions of history that should be fairly sought after.
    There are entries in The Official Record of The War of The Rebellion documenting black soldiers serving in Confederate units.

    In 1861, the Tennessee legislature allowed for the enlistment of freed men into state military service.

    SECTION 1: Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Tennessee, That from and after the passage of this act, the Governor shall be, and he is hereby authorized, at his discretion, to receive into the military service of the State, all male free persons of color between the ages of fifteen (15) and fifty (5)) years-or such number as may be necessary, who may be sound in his mind and body, and capable of actual service.

    Public acts of the State of ... - Tennessee - Google Books
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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