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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    why does no one ever mention that, in the south, there were actually free blacks who owned other blacks as slaves?
    It would destroy the bull**** version of history they learned and force them admit that their passions have been misguided for a very long time.

    You know damn well, they'll never mention black soldiers that fought along side white soldiers, during the war.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    why does no one ever mention that, in the south, there were actually free blacks who owned other blacks as slaves?
    Because it doesn't fit with their view of the world.

    Wasn't the first slave owner in Virginia a black man? I remember reading about him, but don't remember his name now.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It would destroy the bull**** version of history they learned and force them admit that their passions have been misguided for a very long time.

    You know damn well, they'll never mention black soldiers that fought along side white soldiers, during the war.
    over 2000 free blacks in Louisianna joined the confederate army and fought against the union.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by oscarb63 View Post
    why does no one ever mention that, in the south, there were actually free blacks who owned other blacks as slaves?
    those living today in denial don't want to hear or know that fact.
    They would not be able to complain about it.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It would destroy the bull**** version of history they learned and force them admit that their passions have been misguided for a very long time.

    You know damn well, they'll never mention black soldiers that fought along side white soldiers, during the war.
    There were no 'black soldiers' that fought alongside white soldiers - at least not in the confederacy. There were slave owners who rented their slaves to the confederate military, but the Conferate Congress didn't authorize black troops until March of 1865 - a month before the war ended. Try reading a little history before you make a fool of yourself.

    Confederate Law authorizing the enlistment of black soldiers, March 13, 1865, as promulgated in a military order

    You unreconstructed Rebels are a hoot. You got your asses handed to you because you went to war to protect your right to buy and sell other human beings. Great cause.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    why does no one ever mention that, in the south, there were actually free blacks who owned other blacks as slaves?
    becasue they didn't own them to "own" them........and it was still uncommon. they owned them to help them, your post is really quite dishonest.

    Did Blacks also own slaves in the U.S.? | Straight Dope | Creative Loafing Tampa
    [B]Free blacks were fairly common in the antebellum South, constituting 8 percent of southern blacks in 1840. Most had gained their freedom through manumission (especially common just after the Revolutionary War) or had been born free to a free mother. Slaves who'd been permitted to earn money in their spare time sometimes made enough to buy their freedom. Another route was being bought and freed by free relatives or friends. But some who bought slaves in this way didn't formally free them for years, partly because freedmen paid higher taxes than slaves or whites. Courts since colonial times had recognized the right of free blacks to own slaves. This gave rise to an odd arrangement in which people lived as free but were legally someone else's property. This was benevolent slavery.

    Between 1800 and 1830, slave states began restricting manumission, seeing free blacks as potential fomenters of slave rebellion. Now you could buy your friends, but you couldn't free them unless they left the state -- which for the freed slave could mean leaving behind family still in bondage. So more free blacks took to owning slaves benevolently. Being a nominal slave was risky -- among other things, you could be seized as payment for your nominal owner's debts. But at least one state, South Carolina, granted nominal slaves certain rights, including the right to buy slaves of their own.

    Nobody's sure how many such arrangements existed. A widely cited but imperfect source is the 1830 federal census, chosen because it supposedly represents the high point of black slave ownership. One count, taking the data at face value, found 3,777 free black heads of household who had slaves living with them. If that's accurate, about 2 percent of southern free blacks owned slaves.[/B]

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    over 2000 free blacks in Louisianna joined the confederate army and fought against the union.
    I would teach them about the Native Guard units, but I'm sure it would be a waste of time.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Because it doesn't fit with their view of the world.

    Wasn't the first slave owner in Virginia a black man? I remember reading about him, but don't remember his name now.
    I don't know about that, but the 1st Manassass started on a farm owned by a freed man.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would teach them about the Native Guard units, but I'm sure it would be a waste of time.
    Absolute unreconstructed rebel fiction. You want us to believe that blacks enjoyed being bought and sold and raped and murdered so much they couldn't wait to risk their lives to ensure that it continued?

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    becasue they didn't own them to "own" them........and it was still uncommon. they owned them to help them, your post is really quite dishonest.

    Did Blacks also own slaves in the U.S.? | Straight Dope | Creative Loafing Tampa
    Oh, was that how it worked?!?

    I would love to see something other than an internet blog to support that bull****.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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