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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    I went to a country concert in Athens (Luke Bryan) last weekend and there were soooo many confederate flags it was hilarious. And one guy having a massive one on the end of a large bamboo pole sticking up from the crowd.
    I like the flag, I understand the full meaning, it also has a lot to do with lifestyle too and southern heritage. But, my family is from the North, so I don't really participate in it; even though I like it.

    Those that use it 99.9% of the time are not doing it for racist reason, but for drastically different ones... the thought doesn't even come to mind.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Those that use it 99.9% of the time are not doing it for racist reason, but for drastically different ones... the thought doesn't even come to mind.
    That's probably true, but then the people flying the flag (a vast majority anyway) are not descended from slaves. I'm sure jews feel differently about the Nazi flag than say, someone who's proud of their German ancestry. Not that I've ever seen anyone fly a Nazi flag for any reason other than being a Neo-Nazi.

    Perry's past defense of these symbols is just smart politics in Texas. You don't say you don't like it, just like politicians in Wisconsin don't go around saying they don't like the Packers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    I'm not saying he's a rascist or not. I'm only asserting that being associated with these two racially charged stories will be enough to drag him down and out. Call me a cynic, but the truth of these matters doesn't really count one way or the other, perception does. His campaign has been sliding for weeks now, and this might just be the swan song into irrelevancy.
    Oh, I don't know that you're a cynic. But I do wonder how much respect you have for the majority of your fellow citizens if you think the majority is going to buy sound-byte accusations of racism such as the ones being leveled against Perry. Even YouTube clips of Jeremiah Wright shouting "God damn America" and his lunatic accusations that the federal government exposed the black community to HIV in the hope of genocide didn't have much impact on Obama's candidacy. Why would a stupid rock have an impact on Perry's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Oh, I don't know that you're a cynic. But I do wonder how much respect you have for the majority of your fellow citizens if you think the majority is going to buy sound-byte accusations of racism such as the ones being leveled against Perry. Even YouTube clips of Jeremiah Wright shouting "God damn America" and his lunatic accusations that the federal government exposed the black community to HIV in the hope of genocide didn't have much impact on Obama's candidacy. Why would a stupid rock have an impact on Perry's?
    Well, for one (and correct me if my memory is faulty) I think the Rev. Wright controversy first surfaced after the dem primary, in the run up to the general. I think primary voters pay a lot more attention than general voters. Also, this was very much a guilt by association play - whereas the Perry race gaffes involve him directly.

    As for my respect for fellow citizens... well, I respect them, but I think most of them are tragically uninformed, uninterested, and easily misled. I don't think badly of the masses, but I do think only about 50% of them could accurately identify the vice president, for example. Doesn't make them bad or stupid, just unengaged.
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    The fact that Perry is the target of a viscious smear campaign and character assasination by the Marxist left and the establishment Bush Republicans (who hate him) make me more inclined to vote for him. They are obviously taking him seriously and afraid of him or you wouldnt see all this crap. Heck doesnt anyone even know what Perry really stands for on the issues? Not really because there too busy trying to discredit him with overblown & meaningless bull****.

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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    The fact that Perry is the target of a viscious smear campaign and character assasination by the Marxist left and the establishment Bush Republicans (who hate him) make me more inclined to vote for him. They are obviously taking him seriously and afraid of him or you wouldnt see all this crap. Heck doesnt anyone even know what Perry really stands for on the issues? Not really because there too busy trying to discredit him with overblown & meaningless bull****.
    other than his purported racist past, why don't you share with us perry's positions which cause you to be his boy
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    The fact that Perry is the target of a viscious smear campaign and character assasination by the Marxist left and the establishment Bush Republicans (who hate him) make me more inclined to vote for him. They are obviously taking him seriously and afraid of him or you wouldnt see all this crap. Heck doesnt anyone even know what Perry really stands for on the issues? Not really because there too busy trying to discredit him with overblown & meaningless bull****.
    Why is the "Marxists" left against Perry? Obama has the best chances against Perry. I hope he wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Why is the "Marxists" left against Perry? Obama has the best chances against Perry. I hope he wins.
    isn't this the same perry who headed the texans for al gore presidential campaign?
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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I went to a country concert in Athens (Luke Bryan) last weekend and there were soooo many confederate flags it was hilarious. And one guy having a massive one on the end of a large bamboo pole sticking up from the crowd.

    I like the flag, I understand the full meaning, it also has a lot to do with lifestyle too and southern heritage. But, my family is from the North, so I don't really participate in it; even though I like it.

    Those that use it 99.9% of the time are not doing it for racist reason, but for drastically different ones... the thought doesn't even come to mind.
    Excellent post! That is exactly what it is to most Southern people. At a country concert it is a grand opportunity to revel in Southerness together. Southern people are different, as I am reminded here in Arizona from time to time. The Southland has a culture, it is taught and cherished. It is palpable. When Southern people get together it is an opportunity to get loud and proud. Never in such moments have I ever heard Southern people talk about the South and slavery. It doesn't come up, it doesn't cross anyone's mind because as you pointed out, that is not what it is all about.

    Having said that I know the flag has been perverted by sick pukes and ignorant fools. That is unfortunate. I have black friends who if present would be quietly offended, and out of respect to them I would not fly the flag.










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    Re: Perry once defended Confederate symbols

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    with a really good, really shady lawyer, I could get that to hold up in court as a "verbal contract" pay up sucka
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