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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you think we can ever spend enough money to ensure that 100% of our food supply is safe, you are naive. 70-some illnesses; 16 deaths. That's NOTHING. Inconsequential. Unless you're one of the 70-some. Our food supply is probably the safest on planet earth. But it is not and cannot be foolproof.

    The FDA knows what farm these melons came from and still can't figure out what happened. Why is the answer always more money? Why not fewer paper-pushers and more people in the field?? And even at that, we're going to have food-borne illness. Life's not perfect.
    Since no one is arguing for perfection (ie 100%), that is a straw man

    IMO, we should and can do a lot better than 0%, which is what the rightwingers want
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Since no one is arguing for perfection (ie 100%), that is a straw man

    IMO, we should and can do a lot better than 0%, which is what the rightwingers want
    Which rightwingers want 0%?
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

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    Which rightwingers want 0%?
    You didn't read the links given (clue: "deregulation")
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Take one example - the ridiculous food safety regulations. By forcing smaller, marginal family farms out of business, these regulations reduce competition, promote monoculture which increases the chance of a disease or blight decimating an entire food species, and increases contamination risk as food sources and storage is centralized. To boot, these regulations increase fuel consumption and air pollution as food is shipped across ever farther distances. Our food supply has steadily become safer over the years even as media reporting of food issues tripled in the past decade. But regulations spawned by populist politicians, supported by a unquestioning society educated by a sensationalist media, will reverse the long-term trends of the ever safer food supply.
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    De-regulation doesn't mean, "Katy, bar the door." It means getting rid of those archiac rules and regulations that do no good. But, hey, I guess just mentioning the word, "de-regulation," if you're a Republican, makes you a target. Get educated!!!
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
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    De-regulation doesn't mean, "Katy, bar the door." It means getting rid of those archiac rules and regulations that do no good. But, hey, I guess just mentioning the word, "de-regulation," if you're a Republican, makes you a target. Get educated!!!
    No, de-regulation means getting rid of all the rules. You're talking about "regulation reform"

    From my earlier link
    As ThinkProgress reported yesterday, despite yet another outbreak of food-borne illness — this time stemming from listeria infected cantaloupes — congressional Republicans are still trying to cut back on the nation’s food safety regulations. The tainted melons have caused 16 deaths so far, making this the deadliest outbreak in more than a decade, and it comes just a month after salmonella-tainted turkey forced food-giant Cargill into the third-largest food recall on record
    People are dying, and the republicans think there's TOO MUCH regulation

    House Republicans vote to cut funds to implement food safety law - The Washington Post
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, de-regulation means getting rid of all the rules. You're talking about "regulation reform."
    Find me her quote. She says nothing about deregulation. Here's what an unbiased news source has to say about her comment:

    Bachmann visited a family-owned meat packing plant in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday to argue that Americans want safety but also common sense. She warned against regulatory "overkill" and said that regulations can be so complex that they become expensive to the point of putting companies out of business.
    Here's another real news source that says:

    “It is more regulation than this business has ever had before,” Bachmann said, as she pointed to a binder of papers. “Now it’s gotten to the point where one employee out of about a half-dozen has to be dedicated, full-time, just to dealing with rules and regulations. This is just one business, but it is replicates all around the United States.”

    Bachmann didn’t specifically say which regulations she thought were “overkill,” but regulatory reform — be it the tax code, the Environmental Protection Agency, Department of Education, or some other federal agency — is a theme most Republicans seeking the nomination for president have hit on during their Iowa travels.
    Bachmann criticizes Obama, food industry while in Des Moines | Iowa Caucus 2012

    Stop reading blogs and leftie loonies. Get the facts for yourself, Sangha.

    People are dying, and the republicans think there's TOO MUCH regulation

    House Republicans vote to cut funds to implement food safety law - The Washington Post
    Sixteen people in this latest report. That is hardly an indictment of our food industry. We have the safest food supply on planet earth.
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Find me her quote. She says nothing about deregulation. Here's what an unbiased news source has to say about her comment:



    Here's another real news source that says:



    Bachmann criticizes Obama, food industry while in Des Moines | Iowa Caucus 2012

    Stop reading blogs and leftie loonies. Get the facts for yourself, Sangha.



    Sixteen people in this latest report. That is hardly an indictment of our food industry. We have the safest food supply on planet earth.
    De-regulation means eliminating regulation, not reforming it.

    3000 people die every year and millions get sick. It costs the nation billions of dollars. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away. Whining about regulations wont work either
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    De-regulation means eliminating regulation, not reforming it.

    3000 people die every year and millions get sick. It costs the nation billions of dollars. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away. Whining about regulations wont work either
    Show me where she said deregulation. Anywhere. You know, with quotes around it. From a reliable source. Stop pickin' up with loonie lefties are puttin' down....unless you are one of them, of course.
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Show me where she said deregulation. Anywhere. You know, with quotes around it. From a reliable source. Stop pickin' up with loonie lefties are puttin' down....unless you are one of them, of course.
    Funny how you want to focus on one link and ignore the ones where the republicans passed laws making it impossible for the FDA to enforce the food safety laws.

    Actually, it's not funny; it's sad. 3000 people die every year from unsafe food, mostly young children and seniors, and you want to focus on ONE republican. Meanwhile, the GOP is making it impossible for the FDA to inspect imported food.
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    Re: Flood of food imported to U.S., but only 2 percent inspected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Funny how you want to focus on one link and ignore the ones where the republicans passed laws making it impossible for the FDA to enforce the food safety laws.

    Actually, it's not funny; it's sad. 3000 people die every year from unsafe food, mostly young children and seniors, and you want to focus on ONE republican. Meanwhile, the GOP is making it impossible for the FDA to inspect imported food.

    On the plus side, imported foods tend towards the expensive, over their domestic counterparts, and usually, it's the wealthier folks that buy them. Now THAT'S class biological warfare, lol.

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