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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    I have a hard time worrying about this case in Italy while Rome (USA) burns. What time is BO's press conference tomorrow when he will take credit for her release?
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Really? The State can try someone for the same crime twice? Dang. Yeah, she's best looking at getting the fudge out of dodge. Maybe she got away with murder, we'll never really know for sure. But the Prosecution didn't seem very competent, nor did they seem to have compelling data. So they were left with hearsay, supposition and name calling, and that shouldn't really be enough for a murder conviction.
    There are several countries that allow double jeopardy... Not all countries have strong protections for the accused...
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Screwed up?... The Italian police and press should be ashamed of themselves! Her conviction was not only a travesty of justice but perhaps the most outrageous example of Continental anti-American bias as has been displayed in years.
    Yea of course you would say that... and I am not excusing how the Italian media handled the situation, but nor should you excuse how the US media handled it. She was innocent in their eyes before the evidence became known, simply because she was a pretty white girl from America.

    What ain't normal is convicting someone of murder for doing cartwheels. Doing cartwheels while waiting idly for hours at the police station is just as likely to be a mixed expression of ennui, apprehension, and immaturity as it is anything else. We are talking about a young woman just barely out of high school. Cartwheels are NOT evidence.
    LOL give me a break. Are you saying that your young people are that immature at that age? And it was not only the cart wheels... explain why she went out and bought cleaning materials?

    Her inconsistencies and false indictment of Lumumba should be the first clue that she was making up stories in order to appease her interrogators, which is not at all unusual during prolonged interrogations.
    LOL more excuses.

    There will be no appeal. Despite what this degenerate prosecutor says, the Italian judiciary will want nothing more than to get this embarassing fiasco behind them as soon as possible.
    According to the information I saw last night, then there will be an appeal.

    It is more than obvious that Rudy Guede murdered Kercher. If her bereaved parents cannot accept that for some unfathomable reason, then they should seek counseling.
    And now you are being biased as hell.. is it because he is a black man? The evidence against Rudy Guede is even worse off than it was against Knox. And Guede did not have the American media to form public opinion in his favour.
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There isn't a shred of evidence linking her to the murder. Absolutely nothing.
    She was in the house, she lived with the girl, her DNA is all over the place (shocker I know), the way she acted after the murder and so on and so on. The US just executed a man with less evidence against him than Knox.. so..

    Glad you applaud when police bully someone into agreeing with a story that THEY concocted, then convict her of slander.
    Yes that would be an American's claim. She was the one that accused someone else, not the police. In fact the police quickly dismissed her accusation because the man had a freaking alibi. Knox did NOT have an alibi. Hell she did could not even get her story straight and changed it many times. Not the sign of an innocent person.

    Whether it's "normal" has no bearing on whether or not she was guilty of the crime.
    LOL of course it is. Such things are used constantly in US courts for peak sake. Her demeanour and state of mind are very much part of the case.. granted I fully agree some sort of physical evidence is needed as well to convict someone, but demeanour is very much part of any case.

    There won't be an extradition fight. If it comes to that, the US government will tell Italy to **** off and that will be the end of it. As it should.
    LOL so you wont follow the law just because it is a pretty white girl form Seattle?

    The killer is obviously the man whom the evidence DOES link to the crime, Rudy Guede.
    Yea blame the black guy. As I have stated, the case against Rudy Guede is worse off than the case against Knox. Witnesses against him have changed their stories and have considerable credibility problems (heroin addict for example). On top of that they cant even use Knox as a witness any more since she is a convicted slanderer.
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    There are several countries that allow double jeopardy... Not all countries have strong protections for the accused...
    And the person who is spreading this lie is a ****ing moron.

    Italy does NOT have double jeopardy.

    No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State.
    European Convention of Human Rights, Seventh Protocol, Article 4.

    Italy has ratified said protocol.

    What the prosecution can do is appeal the case to the highest court in Italy.
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post

    Yea of course you would say that... and I am not excusing how the Italian media handled the situation, but nor should you excuse how the US media handled it. She was innocent in their eyes before the evidence became known, simply because she was a pretty white girl from America.
    Obviously, you are not too familiar with the case.


    LOL give me a break. Are you saying that your young people are that immature at that age? And it was not only the cart wheels... explain why she went out and bought cleaning materials?
    No breaks. Yes, some young people can be quite immature. That's why we call them young people.

    As far as the "cleaning materials" evidence goes, it was bunk.

    "When the store owner was first interviewed by the police, he did not mention Knox coming into his store to buy cleaning supplies. The shop's other worker testified that Knox never came into the store the morning of the murder."

    Amanda Knox Latest News: Lifetime movie full of mistakes, says CBS News producer - Crimesider - CBS News

    LOL more excuses.
    LOL yourself. You should know what you are talking about before you opine.


    According to the information I saw last night, then there will be an appeal.
    I don't care what you saw last night, or what is even being said right now. This case is dead. Even if there is an appeal, it is going nowhere.

    And now you are being biased as hell.. is it because he is a black man? The evidence against Rudy Guede is even worse off than it was against Knox. And Guede did not have the American media to form public opinion in his favour.
    How do you find the nerve to argue about an issue of which you know next to nothing?

    Try doing some research, FIRST, then attempt to argue. This way, you won't seem so annoyingly misinformed.
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And the person who is spreading this lie is a ****ing moron.

    Italy does NOT have double jeopardy.



    European Convention of Human Rights, Seventh Protocol, Article 4.

    Italy has ratified said protocol.

    What the prosecution can do is appeal the case to the highest court in Italy.
    Which constitutes double jeopardy...
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    She was in the house,
    She says she was not, and there was no evidence to suggest otherwise.

    she lived with the girl,
    This is not evidence of murder.

    her DNA is all over the place (shocker I know),
    False. There is absolutely no DNA evidence linking her to the crime scene.

    the way she acted after the murder and so on and so on.
    This is not evidence of murder.

    The US just executed a man with less evidence against him than Knox.. so..
    That's exactly what this is about. You don't like the United States, so you want to see an innocent person spend the rest of her life in prison. I imagine that this is what her original conviction stemmed from as well.

    Yes that would be an American's claim.


    She was the one that accused someone else, not the police.
    False. The police made up the story about Lumumba being involved, and kept asking her if it was true. As far as I know this fact isn't even in dispute. After many hours of interrogation (during which she claims she was struck by a police officer) she told them what they wanted to hear. That's far different than her just accusing him out of the blue. And for that matter, even if she HAD accused him out of the blue, it would hardly suggest she was guilty of murder as opposed to merely under a lot of stress.

    In fact the police quickly dismissed her accusation because the man had a freaking alibi. Knox did NOT have an alibi. Hell she did could not even get her story straight and changed it many times. Not the sign of an innocent person.
    Which aspects of her story have changed? And why wouldn't they necessarily be the sign of an innocent person?

    LOL of course it is. Such things are used constantly in US courts for peak sake.
    I don't think you understand the US court system very well if you believe that. Things like this would very rarely be accepted at all, and only in conjunction with lots of evidence linking her to the crime.

    Her demeanour and state of mind are very much part of the case.. granted I fully agree some sort of physical evidence is needed as well to convict someone, but demeanour is very much part of any case.
    Oh how nice, you're willing to allow that "some sort" of physical evidence is necessary but demeanor is "very much" part of the case. Demeanor should, at most, account for maybe 5% of the evidence because it's nothing more than someone's subjective opinion of how people are "supposed" to behave following a murder.

    LOL so you wont follow the law just because it is a pretty white girl form Seattle?
    There it is again, you hate Americans so you want an innocent person to go to prison for the rest of her life.

    Yea blame the black guy. As I have stated, the case against Rudy Guede is worse off than the case against Knox. Witnesses against him have changed their stories and have considerable credibility problems (heroin addict for example). On top of that they cant even use Knox as a witness any more since she is a convicted slanderer.
    You have GOT to be kidding. You either don't know much about the facts of the case or you're so blinded by your hatred for the United States that you can't see anything else. Rudy Guede's DNA is all over the crime scene. He even left a deuce in Kercher's toilet the night the murder occurred, which the police found.
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    She was in the house, she lived with the girl, her DNA is all over the place (shocker I know), the way she acted after the murder and so on and so on. The US just executed a man with less evidence against him than Knox.. so..
    Then prosecution should have easily been able to put her at the crime scene at the time of the crime. Could they? Beyond a reasonable doubt, was it done? To me the prosecution seemed to have conjecture, hearsay, supposition, and insult; but not much beyond that. That's not enough for murder conviction. Sorry. Maybe if she doesn't get out in time and Italy retries her, they can get another go at it. But they'll need better evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yes that would be an American's claim. She was the one that accused someone else, not the police. In fact the police quickly dismissed her accusation because the man had a freaking alibi. Knox did NOT have an alibi. Hell she did could not even get her story straight and changed it many times. Not the sign of an innocent person.
    Then you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was guilty, yes?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL of course it is. Such things are used constantly in US courts for peak sake. Her demeanour and state of mind are very much part of the case.. granted I fully agree some sort of physical evidence is needed as well to convict someone, but demeanour is very much part of any case.
    That Casey Anthony chick wasn't acting all grieving and was rather suspicious too. But we too had to let her go because we could not get the evidence to prove the crime. Evidence is necessary, not supposition.

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    LOL so you wont follow the law just because it is a pretty white girl form Seattle?
    Race card eh? Are you sure you're not just on one of your anti-American kicks?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea blame the black guy. As I have stated, the case against Rudy Guede is worse off than the case against Knox. Witnesses against him have changed their stories and have considerable credibility problems (heroin addict for example). On top of that they cant even use Knox as a witness any more since she is a convicted slanderer.
    Loving that race card, eh?
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    Re: Amanda Knox wins Meredith Kercher murder appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What the prosecution can do is appeal the case to the highest court in Italy.
    That's double jeopardy, FYI.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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