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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the majority of Americans support raising the Federal min. wage to $20 an hour or more?


    evidence please.
    Google living wage polls

    People disagree about what the exact amount should be (they range from 10/hr to over 20/hr) but support for a living wage is high

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    But about 20 others headed for the Brooklyn-bound roadway, said Christopher T. Dunn of the New York Civil Liberties Union, who accompanied the march. Some of them chanted “take the bridge.” They were met by a handful of high-level police supervisors, who blocked the way and announced repeatedly through bullhorns that the marchers were blocking the roadway and that if they continued to do so, they would be subject to arrest.

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    Mr. Browne said that the police did not trick the protesters into going onto the bridge.

    “This was not a trap,” he said. “They were warned not to proceed.”

    Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge - NYTimes.com
    So they were repeatedly warned to NOT block the roadway, and they did so anyway....case closed.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You should read for comprehension then respond...

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    Meaning you can't or won't answer him?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I used to look at crap like this and use it as validation that my theory of, what ever libs accuse conservatives of is in fact what they do. Remember, how libs in the media, and in here tried, and continue to try and paint Tea Partiers as "extreme", "Violent", or worse?

    Well, I don't recall any stories of 700 Tea Partiers being arrested...We'd better be prepared, these leftists, and libs, could very well bring violence when Barry is booted from the WH, after Obama's is done stoking the division campaign he is starting now.


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    J, you over simplify and are actually using a minority to paint the whole both in using this article and how you paint those who oppose the Tea Party. Both sides have extremeists. Tea party memebers are more extremeist of the republican party, not that 100% of them are republican mine you. But those who join the tea party are LARGELY more extreme. Code pink is, for example, more extreme than you every day democrat or even the everyday liberal. Such groups tend to go too far. It is not partisan or sterotyping to say that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley
    Tea party memebers are more extremeist of the republican party, not that 100% of them are republican mine you. But those who join the tea party are LARGELY more extreme.
    The tea party is an astroturf phenomenon, created, funded and perpetuated by corporate interests and the media. It doesn't exist as a real movement.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The tea party is an astroturf phenomenon, created, funded and perpetuated by corporate interests and the media. It doesn't exist as a real movement.
    I actually think it was originallg a real thing, there was an attempt to coopt it into a rebranding of the republican party, astroturfing an actual lawn if you will, and the once in the national eye it went rogue and turned into Kochensteins Monster.

    Real once more and actually powerful, but not necessarily in the way its big money patrons intended.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I actually think it was originallg a real thing, there was an attempt to coopt it into a rebranding of the republican party, astroturfing an actual lawn if you will, and the once in the national eye it went rogue and turned into Kochensteins Monster.

    Real once more and actually powerful, but not necessarily in the way its big money patrons intended.
    That's not how it atually happened. From the beginning, their protests were funded and promoted by big money interests in the republican party
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I do exactly that already... Of course the story has to be truthful, but yes I am well aware hundreds if not thousands of tea party meetings and protests have occurred without arrests, violence, extremism, or any other kind of ridiculous shenanigans like blocking traffic and kudos to them. And I acknowledge that the incidents where tea parties have gotten out of control, been arrested, whatever don't speak for their entire movement.
    What incidents would those be?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...?
    I actually think it was originallg a real thing
    I recommend you check out Paul Street's book Crashing the Tea Party. There was never anything grassroots about it.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So then what? They essentially rounded them up and arrested them?

    I'm not sure what's going on with a lot of this crap here, it seems to me though that the entire episode was an exercise in Big Brother government.
    Sometimes it is and somwtimes it isn't.

    The incident I mentioned was at one of the big anti-war protests in New York. A march to a rally. Turnout was higher than anticipated, and there was a choke point getting into the venue for the rally. In large crowds in motion, when the front stops and the back doesn't, the middle gets squished, sometimes catastrophically.

    The officers lining the route directed marchers onto a side street to "vent" the crowd pressure, bht when the crowd met the second line of cordons on tje next block they were told to turn back, but were unable to do so because they were being pushed from behind by people who thought they were following directions.

    Things went downhill, but ultimately it was determined to be no ones fault and I think most charges from both sides were dropped when it became clear that this particular instance was simply accidental.

    But the fact that there IS a term like "kettling" is indicative of it being a tactic, and could be part of an overall crowd control stategy for certain situations.

    And just on general principles I would advise everyone to be sceptical of "instigators", we've all seen Cartman on South Park running around in a crowd using different voices to try to rouse the rabble.

    I would certainly consider salting a crowd with artificial jackasses to discredit a protest against ME, or at a rally for my opponent.

    Lots of starving actors in New York.

    Them SuperPACs gotta spend that money somewhere!
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