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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I did, but my post came out all screwy for some reason.

    If my only options in my mind was to direct my ire at them, and not at my elected representatives? I'd throw my chips in with hactivist groups, and do my damndest to bring all the trash to light I could, raid every email, plunder every hard drive, and have wikileaks, and a thousand other sites just like it, plastering this info on every surface of the internet I could afford. Would that be wrong? Sure. But personally, I feel that these giant megacorporations and an affront to my rights as a US citizen. In other words, open season, I say.

    But the more effective way is to simply demand a change and a redress of grievances from washington. Of course, in order to intelligently do that, this mass of people would need to brush up on the subject, and truly understand all the links in the chain around our necks.
    By resorting to drastic "open season" behavior, your approach would lose credibility in short order. As to your second point, once again, this is not a political rally, it is a call to awaken the country as to how screwed up our priorities have become.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I did, but my post came out all screwy for some reason.

    If my only options in my mind was to direct my ire at them, and not at my elected representatives? I'd throw my chips in with hactivist groups, and do my damndest to bring all the trash to light I could, raid every email, plunder every hard drive, and have wikileaks, and a thousand other sites just like it, plastering this info on every surface of the internet I could afford. Would that be wrong? Sure. But personally, I feel that these giant megacorporations and an affront to my rights as a US citizen. In other words, open season, I say.

    But the more effective way is to simply demand a change and a redress of grievances from washington. Of course, in order to intelligently do that, this mass of people would need to brush up on the subject, and truly understand all the links in the chain around our necks.
    You still haven't got the chain on your bicycle yet.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Apparently not:

    "The 1,300 Austinites who gathered at City Hall on Thursday for the Occupy Austin protest couldnt have been more diverse. They were young and old, fanatical and skeptical, liberal and conservative."
    Occupy Austin Protest Includes Many Students, Alumni | The Alcalde

    "The Occupy the Fed protests led by Alex Jones, the Oathkeepers and other conservatives are targeting the Federal Reserve."
    Prison Planet.com Protests: Both Conservatives and Liberals Are Right
    Are any of them seeking the Presidency for the Republican Party?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you'll continue to be bothered by corruption but remain silent on the present and blame it on the past. That's not uncommon response these days.
    No one has remainded silent. I simply hate the practice. I don't selectively direct my distain. If getting rid of Obama would end the practice, I'd be with you. But the truth is the republican counterpart will do the same thing. We need to go beyond ourside thinking and try to end the practices.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So you've chosen to ignore the conservatives that marched in Austin and other cities? Whatever floats your boat, and I never said it was bi-partisan, only that there are conservatives that support many of the goals.
    I've chosen to refute your assertion that 2 republicans do not make a bi-partisan effort in any stretch of the imagination. I'm sure the push from the left both in the media and in politics is trying to give OWS credibility by making the claim OWS and the Tea Party are the same and that they agree on so many things --- which is untrue. There are a few issues they do agree on, but as usual, this being exaggerated beyond the pale.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    WE are their bosses. It is up to US, not business men, though they are free to join us come election time. If you want to change wall street, without going the political rout, you're going to have to a slightly more radical rout. Wall Street has no legal obligation to any of us, and are therefore totally unconcerned what some group of people outside their office windows consuming products their subsidiary companies produce are doing. You either need to find proof of illegal activity and bring legal action against them, or you need to do something that would actually harm how they do business, disrupt their cash flow, alter their lives in some way as individuals.
    The rightwingers have to pretend that they don't know who the OWS is protesting so they can dishonestly claim that they are not protesting politicians (ie "without going the political rout")




    Everyone knows that the OWS protests are spreading across the nation, but the rightwingers have to pretend that they don't know this
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I did, but my post came out all screwy for some reason.

    If my only options in my mind was to direct my ire at them, and not at my elected representatives? I'd throw my chips in with hactivist groups, and do my damndest to bring all the trash to light I could, raid every email, plunder every hard drive, and have wikileaks, and a thousand other sites just like it, plastering this info on every surface of the internet I could afford. Would that be wrong? Sure. But personally, I feel that these giant megacorporations and an affront to my rights as a US citizen. In other words, open season, I say.

    But the more effective way is to simply demand a change and a redress of grievances from washington. Of course, in order to intelligently do that, this mass of people would need to brush up on the subject, and truly understand all the links in the chain around our necks.
    Why do you pretend that they are not protesting to our elected representatives?

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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one has remainded silent. I simply hate the practice. I don't selectively direct my distain. If getting rid of Obama would end the practice, I'd be with you. But the truth is the republican counterpart will do the same thing. We need to go beyond ourside thinking and try to end the practices.
    Then let's go "beyond outside thinking".

    How do you change the pattern unless honest people with a proven track record are elected? Is there another way?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then let's go "beyond outside thinking".

    How do you change the pattern unless honest people with a proven track record are elected? Is there another way?
    First you have to get such a person to run. Remember, in today's world anyone who has actually done anything is disqualified because it can be sued agains him. I can't think of one politician who is completely honest. And we shouw by our voting that we don't want them to be. We don't reward truth telling. We reward lies. Best liar wins.

    So, if we can find someone honest to even get into the game, and if we can keep that person honest with all the money they need to run, and if we can recoginze and support honesty, then I would argue we should vote for that person regardless of party.

    Now when do you think we will have this?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    First you have to get such a person to run. Remember, in today's world anyone who has actually done anything is disqualified because it can be sued agains him. I can't think of one politician who is completely honest. And we shouw by our voting that we don't want them to be. We don't reward truth telling. We reward lies. Best liar wins.

    So, if we can find someone honest to even get into the game, and if we can keep that person honest with all the money they need to run, and if we can recoginze and support honesty, then I would argue we should vote for that person regardless of party.

    Now when do you think we will have this?
    We will never have this in our lifetimes because people are imperfect.

    But we can set high standards for ourselves, as far as we are capable, and demand the same of our media, elected leaders, our government and others.

    Only when the people feel themselves second rate will they accept governments who are second rate. A well informed public will elect good leaders and will not accept mediocrities.

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