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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And here we have another example of the rightwingers disingenously pretending that they don't know what the protests are about so that they can make dishonest arguments stating what the protests are about. Their dishonesty proves that they aren't interested in explanations; they're just fishing for bait to launch another dishonest attack

    According to KK, these people aren't protesting our political system
    I see where they want to
    GET MONEY OUT OF GOVERNMENT
    but in fact that's already happened. Or at least the government is out of money. They're $15 trillion in debt and counting. The money has never been out of government the way it is now. Maybe they're protesting in the wrong city.

    They apparently want to outlaw corporations, which might be a poorly thought out idea, and against deregulation, which might relate to the Dodd-Franks bill - two democrats. Who knows?

    So it seems they do have something on their minds but it doesn't seem to be very well articulated.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I see where they want to but in fact that's already happened. Or at least the government is out of money. They're $15 trillion in debt and counting. The money has never been out of government the way it is now. Maybe they're protesting in the wrong city.

    They apparently want to outlaw corporations, which might be a poorly thought out idea, and against deregulation, which might relate to the Dodd-Franks bill - two democrats. Who knows?

    So it seems they do have something on their minds but it doesn't seem to be very well articulated.
    And here we have another example of the rightwingers disingenously pretending that they don't know what the protests are about so that they can make dishonest arguments stating what the protests are about. Their dishonesty proves that they aren't interested in explanations; they're just fishing for bait to launch another dishonest attack

    Grant dishonestly claims they want to outlaw corporations
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I used to look at crap like this and use it as validation that my theory of, what ever libs accuse conservatives of is in fact what they do. Remember, how libs in the media, and in here tried, and continue to try and paint Tea Partiers as "extreme", "Violent", or worse?
    i've been noticing the same thing - it's some kind of weird projection. that, or straight cynicism, which also shouldn't be discounted.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And here we have another example of the rightwingers disingenously pretending that they don't know what the protests are about so that they can make dishonest arguments stating what the protests are about. Their dishonesty proves that they aren't interested in explanations; they're just fishing for bait to launch another dishonest attack

    Grant dishonestly claims they want to outlaw corporations
    You're right and I was wrong. The sign said "Wall Street and Greed have corrupted the political process". It's not an original idea, in fact it's decades old, and they don't seem to have any answer to the problem at all. In fact they don't appear to have any serious ideas or solutions. If you see any perhaps you can post them. So far they just seem to be shouting, milling about, occasionally violent and appear to be very confused.

    It seems i was correct about the rest of it though.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You're right and I was wrong. The sign said "Wall Street and Greed have corrupted the political process". It's not an original idea, in fact it's decades old, and they don't seem to have any answer to the problem at all. In fact they don't appear to have any serious ideas or solutions. If you see any perhaps you can post them. So far they just seem to be shouting, milling about, occasionally violent and appear to be very confused.

    It seems i was correct about the rest of it though.
    This is just more rightwing nuttery pretending to not know what the protests are about.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Hypocrisy crosses party lines. Surely you guys don't believe conservatives are above this kind of behavior.

    Just off the top of my head:

    -- Decrying political correctness and claiming to defend the constitution while demanding that Muslims not exercise freedom of religion if its near ground zero.
    -- Championing the tea party as "great Americans" exercising their constitutional freedoms while denigrating the Occupy Wall Streeters and Wisconsin protesters as thugs for doing the same thing.
    -- Demanding that nobody should care what CEOs and very wealthy people earn while decrying teachers' "gold-plated benefits."
    -- Ridiculing "politically correct" language while rolling out politically loaded terms like "death panels" and "job creators."

    So many view their political opponents with close-minded orthodoxy. It's politically effective. It's simple. But it's not accurate or constructive -- at least not if we're interested in pragmatic governance.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    This is just more rightwing nuttery pretending to not know what the protests are about.
    What do you think they are about?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What do you think they are about?
    I don't waste my time explaining things to rightwingers who are obviously dedicated to dishonestly pretending they don't know what the protests are about.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Hypocrisy crosses party lines. Surely you guys don't believe conservatives are above this kind of behavior.

    Just off the top of my head:

    -- Decrying political correctness and claiming to defend the constitution while demanding that Muslims not exercise freedom of religion if its near ground zero.
    Muslims are free to exercise their religion and build Mosques, and they are all over North America, while people are free to protest their location. Are you saying protests against the location of Mosques should be forbidden while other protests, such as the one near Wall street, continue?
    -- Championing the tea party as "great Americans" exercising their constitutional freedoms while denigrating the Occupy Wall Streeters and Wisconsin protesters as thugs for doing the same thing.
    It's quite easy to denigrate the WSO because their message is inarticulate and so many of them have been arrested. I haven't heard of any Tea Party members being arrested, nor have they been violent. They seem to have left the places of protest cleaner than when they arrived while there is a great deal of filth around the leftists.
    -- Demanding that nobody should care what CEOs and very wealthy people earn while decrying teachers' "gold-plated benefits."
    CEO's, for the most part, are not on the public payroll nor in unions that can shut down government services.

    -- Ridiculing "politically correct" language while rolling out politically loaded terms like "death panels" and "job creators."
    You don't believe there is such a thing as job creators? And it would seem that the term 'death panel' is not far off the mark if everyone doesn't get the health care they need.
    So many view their political opponents with close-minded orthodoxy. It's politically effective. It's simple. But it's not accurate or constructive -- at least not if we're interested in pragmatic governance.
    You feel the WSO or BHO is 'pragmatic'?
    Last edited by Grant; 10-11-11 at 02:19 AM.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I don't waste my time explaining things to rightwingers who are obviously dedicated to dishonestly pretending they don't know what the protests are about.
    So you don't know either, huh?

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