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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, Many today don't have a problem with closing loopholes. However, what are you defining as a loophole, and how does eliminating incentives induce a greater business climate in the US as opposed to say Canada if the overriding tax rates are higher?

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    Actually, the rightwingers you support are all opposed to closing loopholes. Everytime Congress proposes closing them (ex deductions for private jets, etc) the rightwingers start complaining. You even started resisting closing loopholes in this response of yours, before you've even heard what they are, and instead, dishonestly claim that the US has higher tax rates than the US (see charts 8 and 9)
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Just add:

    U.S. taxes are low relative to those in other developed countries. In 2006 U.S. taxes at all levels of government claimed 28 percent of GDP, compared with an average of 36 percent of GDP for the 30 member countries of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

    How do US taxes compare internationally?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Try programs that give an unfair advantage to one group over another. Think corporate welfare. Think education that is better for some but not others, thus making economic opportunity less likely. Think getting most of the benefit, as the wealthy do, but finding ways to not paid that share of the tax burden.

    Does that help?
    And...what does wall street have to do with ANY of that? You want to go after corporate welfare, you need to tackle the people that allow it first, your elected officials. Public schools got you down? Guess what, stock brokers have no say in how they are run, unless they are PTO members, lol. Just saying.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Those graphs only prove that the US is a lowER tax country.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    And...what does wall street have to do with ANY of that? You want to go after corporate welfare, you need to tackle the people that allow it first, your elected officials. Public schools got you down? Guess what, stock brokers have no say in how they are run, unless they are PTO members, lol. Just saying.
    Oh, I have no problem saying our leaders have done their job and properly tackled coporate welfare. And who said stock brokers run education? You seem to making a leap I'm not following.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, I have no problem saying our leaders have done their job and properly tackled coporate welfare. And who said stock brokers run education? You seem to making a leap I'm not following.
    "Try programs that give an unfair advantage to one group over another. Think corporate welfare. Think education that is better for some but not others, thus making economic opportunity less likely. Think getting most of the benefit, as the wealthy do, but finding ways to not paid that share of the tax burden.

    Does that help?"

    They are protesting wall street, but of the things you listed, wall street has legal control over....NONE of them. Unfair education, corporate welfare, etc. Pretty much all the things on the docket for protest, are legally controlled by NO ONE ON WALL STREET. They should be collecting money to have every one bus or fly to DC, instead of using it by themselves pizzas during their camp outs. If they did that, hell, I might even join them. I was active with the tea partiers before that one got hijacked, too. And make no mistake, this one WILL get hijacked. In the end, all movements sell out at some point, hoping for a few moral sacrifices to yield more recognition by having someone famous be their spokesperson. Like a politician.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Yea, but J-mac, wasn't it posters on this site who used photos from Tea Party demonstrations by non-tea party members put in place simply for photo ops holding racist signs to go against the tea party, who claimed that the "tea baggers" were nothing but racist thugs?

    I seem to think I do recall that, and if necessary, will start naming names.
    While people are pointing out grains of sand on the beach (A grain of sand holds a racist sign and all the grains are racist???)

    I'll point out that small groups of popo's are out they accepting paychecks to silence innocent protesters. (and maybe even try to terrorize them.. Or at least a really bad scaring for no reason)



    I know its way, way wrong.... But for some reason that girl on her knees screaming, "WHY!?!?!?!"(or is that just wordless screaming?) makes me chuckle. How wrong of me.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    And...what does wall street have to do with ANY of that? You want to go after corporate welfare, you need to tackle the people that allow it first, your elected officials. Public schools got you down? Guess what, stock brokers have no say in how they are run, unless they are PTO members, lol. Just saying.
    "Cain and Geist don’t get the Occupy Wall Street movement because it is anything but about Washington. One thing that’s become clear to me, being on site at two Occupy communities (I’m visiting Philly and NYC today and tomorrow) is that people no longer have faith in elected officials. Get corporations out of government, get corporate money out of elections are very common signs and chants.

    The members of the Occupy communities see the Occupy movement as an alternative, as an extra-legislative approach to making change happen. Members of congress, overall, are failing to respond to the interests and needs of their constituents, instead, taking care of the corporations who pay their campaign TV advertising budgets."

    "This is a truly bottom up uprising, an awakening among the 99% of Americans who are being mistreated and exploited by big multinational corporations, with the help of a congress and White House that have sold the middle class out."
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Try programs that give an unfair advantage to one group over another.
    Such as Affirmative Action?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    They are protesting wall street.
    And here we have another example of the rightwingers disingenously pretending that they don't know what the protests are about so that they can make dishonest arguments stating what the protests are about. Their dishonesty proves that they aren't interested in explanations; they're just fishing for bait to launch another dishonest attack

    According to KK, these people aren't protesting our political system







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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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