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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    These peaceful protesters came to protest a crime, yes a crime that was committed by the banks and wall-street,...
    A couple of things interest me with this statement. Specifically, what crime was committed and who specifically committed the crime? Secondly, when was the crime committed?

    It seems to me that this protest is not very timely because, if a crime was committed, it was several years ago.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Soo protesting is "mob rule"?
    It's clear that as soon as they block bridges and plug up streets they are doing more than "protesting". They became a mob.

    They are also unwittingly (of course) contributing to a huge Republican victory in the next elections.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    The thought process should bother you it is scary. That being said it seems that by pointing to extremes you tarnish the entire group. In the 60s, there a group called the SDS. An anti-war leftist group that actually did physical harm to people. Back then I didn't think it was fair to brand all anti-war folks, myself included with a fringe group. Is was used then by conservatives to smear the entire anti-war movement. Seems like a mirror image of what the left is now doing.

    However, one could say that the Weathmen Underground, the splinter from SDS that actually committed the violence, are partly responsible for the US to call it quits in Vietnam. They "brought the war home", so to speak. Forcing americans to lose their stomach for it, once it was in rural USA. Not condoning, mind...just pointing out it's over all effectiveness.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because "professional protestor" is a misleading term meant to smear
    What's the pay scale on professional protesting? I'm outa work at the moment, and I'm looking for a new job, but I can't really take anything that pays less than 45,000 a year. I don't mind working weird hours, travel, I don't even mind the occasional tear gas, but I think I should get an extra bonus for that, as kind of an incentive.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    The thought process should bother you it is scary. That being said it seems that by pointing to extremes you tarnish the entire group. In the 60s, there a group called the SDS. An anti-war leftist group that actually did physical harm to people. Back then I didn't think it was fair to brand all anti-war folks, myself included with a fringe group. Is was used then by conservatives to smear the entire anti-war movement. Seems like a mirror image of what the left is now doing.
    I actually agree with you. We should not use that to tar an entire group. But I would that someone standing outside with a gun straped to his side and carrying that sign might be one we can paint.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not at all, however, to me this is threatening violence:

    It IS threatening violence, and it has RIGHT do imply such, as is inherent within the 2nd amendment. The 2nd wasn't tossed in there to help us defend ourselves from car burglars. It's there in order for the PEOPLE to retain the right to deny their government a monopoly on force. This image should serve as a reminder of that. It is no less a threat of violence than the riot police I am sure this man was faced off with, who are packing SP12 shotguns that can blow a whole through a brick wall in one shot. I can't speak as to the man's political views, or if he would consider using violence in order to "get his way", but imagine the staggering and motivational effect for true change an entire country of men like him would have on our current, lazy, money grubbing, social elite political class we have in offices all across the country right now.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    It IS threatening violence, and it has RIGHT do imply such, as is inherent within the 2nd amendment. The 2nd wasn't tossed in there to help us defend ourselves from car burglars. It's there in order for the PEOPLE to retain the right to deny their government a monopoly on force. This image should serve as a reminder of that. It is no less a threat of violence than the riot police I am sure this man was faced off with, who are packing SP12 shotguns that can blow a whole through a brick wall in one shot. I can't speak as to the man's political views, or if he would consider using violence in order to "get his way", but imagine the staggering and motivational effect for true change an entire country of men like him would have on our current, lazy, money grubbing, social elite political class we have in offices all across the country right now.
    I agree with the part I bolded. The rest I disagree with.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    So you think the 2nd amendment is there for citizens to defend themselves against things like Native American raids, petty thieves, and trespassers? Not trying to start an argument, just wondering about your opinion on the purpose behind the second amendment.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    So you think the 2nd amendment is there for citizens to defend themselves against things like Native American raids, petty thieves, and trespassers? Not trying to start an argument, just wondering about your opinion on the purpose behind the second amendment.
    There is certainly a line, and threats come pretty close to the line. And he certainly crosses it ifhe acts on his words. Not unreasonable to be concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    It IS threatening violence, and it has RIGHT do imply such, as is inherent within the 2nd amendment. The 2nd wasn't tossed in there to help us defend ourselves from car burglars. It's there in order for the PEOPLE to retain the right to deny their government a monopoly on force. This image should serve as a reminder of that. It is no less a threat of violence than the riot police I am sure this man was faced off with, who are packing SP12 shotguns that can blow a whole through a brick wall in one shot. I can't speak as to the man's political views, or if he would consider using violence in order to "get his way", but imagine the staggering and motivational effect for true change an entire country of men like him would have on our current, lazy, money grubbing, social elite political class we have in offices all across the country right now.
    I'm going to guess the pictured man isn't part of a "well-regulated militia."
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