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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    This has nothing to do with my post that you quoted.
    In response to "The Tea Party was an Astroturf organized by corporate powers and promoted by Fox News, Wall Street protesters are a real grass roots organization".

    You said "Uh, it's more than Fox News, it's the entire media establishment, including MSNBC, NPR and other so-called 'liberal' media outlets".

    So how do you feel these media "promoted" and "organized" the Tea Party without reporting on it?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    Maybe he's a liberal at heart but his policies have been very centrist, as he is a poor negotiator and has caved into the right
    You should not have not picked a poor negotiator as President. What were the American people thinking??




    There are many more factors in our level of debt than who the president currently is. Here are the major causation factors of the huge debt increase over the past decade:

    Two very expensive wars
    Ridiculous defense spending in general, we currently have 53,900 troops in Germany, 28,500 in South Korea, 32,800 in Japan
    Overspending on national security, there are way too many agencies and it is totally over bloated
    Bush tax cuts on the wealthy
    Low corporate tax rates
    Jobs being shipped overseas to increase corporate profits
    Combating the economic recession that was caused by financial deregulation
    Increased healthcare costs because insurance and pharmaceutical companies have too much power in D.C.
    Subsidies to companies who don't deserve them; Exxonmobil for instance

    Now I am not saying Obama has not contributed to these problems; he most certainly has, especially regarding the defense issues. However, the current Republican party is not addressing the vast majority of these problems, and is instead focusing on things like Obama's first two stimuluses.
    The United States is on a downward spiral because of its massive debt and living beyond its means. The good news is that there'll be plenty of people available who'll be happy to harvest fruit and vegetables
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You should not have not picked a poor negotiator as President. What were the American people thinking??






    The United States is on a downward spiral because of its massive debt and living beyond its means. The good news is that there'll be plenty of people available who'll be happy to harvest fruit and vegetables
    Obama is still much better than McCain/Palin would have been. Of course there is no way to prove that as it is impossible to know what they would have done, but knowing how it ended up I would still support Obama if we had to do it all over. Our debt has been higher (as a % of our GDP) before, the magnitude of the debt is not what is causing our current economic problems. People aren't working, taxes are out of whack, and our allocation of spending needs to be drastically reformed. Then the debt can go down again, as it did following WWII when there was a strong middle class thanks to strong Democrats like Roosevelt and Truman. Eisenhower might as well be called a strong Democrat too, even though he was a Republican at the time the parties have shifted since then so he'd be considered a Democrat now.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    Obama is still much better than McCain/Palin would have been
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    Do you think McCain was a poor negotiator as well? What evidence do you have of that?
    Of course there is no way to prove that as it is impossible to know what they would have done, but knowing how it ended up I would still support Obama if we had to do it all over.
    And why not? He seems to have the economy in control and enjoys people's trust.
    Our debt has been higher (as a % of our GDP) before, the magnitude of the debt is not what is causing our current economic problems. People aren't working, taxes are out of whack, and our allocation of spending needs to be drastically reformed. Then the debt can go down again, as it did following WWII when there was a strong middle class thanks to strong Democrats like Roosevelt and Truman. Eisenhower might as well be called a strong Democrat too, even though he was a Republican at the time the parties have shifted since then so he'd be considered a Democrat now.
    But Americans are a different people now than in earlier generations. Now the debt is largely entitlements, something the present generation has become accustomed to and will riot and destroy should they lose them. They are helpless without their entitlements.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I used to look at crap like this and use it as validation that my theory of, what ever libs accuse conservatives of is in fact what they do. Remember, how libs in the media, and in here tried, and continue to try and paint Tea Partiers as "extreme", "Violent", or worse?

    Well, I don't recall any stories of 700 Tea Partiers being arrested...We'd better be prepared, these leftists, and libs, could very well bring violence when Barry is booted from the WH, after Obama's is done stoking the division campaign he is starting now.


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    What violence??? Your article mentions no violence being carried out by protestors. I've not even heard of a threat of violence, like protestors wearing guns, as we saw in the teaparty rallies.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What violence??? Your article mentions no violence being carried out by protestors. I've not even heard of a threat of violence, like protestors wearing guns, as we saw in the teaparty rallies.
    So If I wear a gun I'm at fault because you feel threatened?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So If I wear a gun I'm at fault because you feel threatened?
    Your not at fault the second amendment guarantees your right to possess a firearm. However behavior of the type Catawba is referring to is slightly more indicative of violence than the wall street occupation.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    Your not at fault the second amendment guarantees your right to possess a firearm. However behavior of the type Catawba is referring to is slightly more indicative of violence than the wall street occupation.
    Seeing someone wearing a gun is just something people are scared of because of their own fear issues. It in no way means they're threating violence or being violent. People that claim these people are threating violence by wearing a gun are merely projecting their own fears.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So If I wear a gun I'm at fault because you feel threatened?
    If you are wearing a gun while holding a sign condoning the bloodletting of your fellow citizens, then yes that is threatening violence more than blocking a street by comparison.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you are wearing a gun while holding a sign condoning the bloodletting of your fellow citizens, then yes that is threatening violence more than blocking a street by comparison.
    I ask for cuts in services to lower debt or maybe to not endure more debt and I pretty much always have a gun on my hip but because the two are together it threating to you? That still doesn't seem real to me.

    And blocking a street for a month impedes business and losses people money that you will want taxed at large amounts to get some nice free stuff. Seems like you would call that threating to me.

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