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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Google living wage polls

    People disagree about what the exact amount should be (they range from 10/hr to over 20/hr) but support for a living wage is high

    When you're negotiating, it's a good idea to demand MORE than what you'll settle for
    Then why not demand $100 an hour from the government and everyone will be rich?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    The Tea Party is generally described as being violent due to the tendency of it's more, shall we say eccentric members to carry assault weapons to political rallies and cheer for executions. Not that it's necessarily an accurate representation of the majority of this movement's followers, however it seems to be a more rational leap to accuse these people of being violent than several hundred jay walkers. It concerns me that you neglect to mention the cause these protesters were supporting but were instead infuriated by their negligence of traffic laws and the "liberal" media's "persecution" of the tea party. It's an interesting line we heard a lot from Glenn Beck and the other Fox lackeys, of course I'm not insinuating that Fox News isn't "Fair and Balanced". That would be "ridiculous", Fox News is always telling me how the liberal media is brainwashing me, Fox News definitely isn't liberal, just fair.... and balanced? Back to my original point, the idea of young politically motivated individuals standing up in defense of the American Dream and equality doesn't disturb me any more than the idea of a man worried about his second amendment rights expressing himself by bringing a weapon as a physical extension of his belief. I don't agree with him but I don't characterize an entire group of people by his actions alone. Seriously though the conservative debate where the audience cheered his state's incredibly high execution rate seemed kinda evil. One of the few examples where I'm for less government.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    \I'll accept corporations as people when Texas executes one
    It makes me sad and happy at the same time to see that quote. Can't wait to see how the 2012 elections turn out now that bribery is legal.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    the idea of young politically motivated individuals standing up in defense of the American Dream and equality.
    There is equality and there is just delusional idiocy. The idea you can end poverty is a great example of just how stupid they really are. Another one is their idea you can end all war. Not only is both of these great examples of how these people live outside of reality but that our educational system is a monumental failure on not only the grade school level but the college level.

    As for the American dream it is just more idiocy that we are taught in school that doesn't actually exist in the real world. The reason you can't see something as subjective as the American dream is because its only in your head. It doesn't actually exist. Asking for something like the American dream and being disappointed is expected since not only is the goals usually unrealistic garbage but it means something different for each person. The fact is they put out demands and not one of them even touches reality and until that changes I will ask them to move so that business can commence.
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    It makes me sad and happy at the same time to see that quote. Can't wait to see how the 2012 elections turn out now that bribery is legal.
    Would you like to share how its bribery or better yet how it wasn't happening already?

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    I understand how it might seem that I want an end to poverty. Not true at all and although I realize I rambled a little bit in my entry if you peruse it carefully I never said that. While I do not believe that there will ever be a time when everyone is happy and every single person can live comfortably I do believe that there are significant problems with the division of wealth in our country. The 400 most wealthy American's possess approximately the same total combined wealth as that of the 150 million least wealthy in our country. This is a statistic quoted by sensationalists like Michael Moore and while it's meant to be shocking, it's meant to be startling, and it's meant to anger it doesn't make it untrue. I also never said I truly embraced the idea of the American Dream where everyone has an opportunity to succeed. It doesn't exist and that's the problem, the pursuit of lofty goals isn't worthless. We don't get anywhere if we don't do something and I'd rather have a small lower class, small upper class, and a fat healthy middle class. I don't disagree that the demands being put forward aren't sensible or realistic. But they're doing something and while they bear responsibility for the legal consequences of the actions they take I don't think it takes away from the core idea of what they're fighting for. It's possible that I'm to optimistic but it's also possible your too cynical to want to accomplish anything.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I wouldve started this in a new thread...but alas im not intelligent enough to do that...so ill post it here

    List of demands by the Wall Street Protesters...it seems they may be a bit more oganized that I first thought.

    Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! | OccupyWallSt.org Forum
    A bunch of clueless effing idiots. Sad on top of that. Wall Street does need protested but not by those who would create a list like this. They will only make it worse. It will be easy for Wall Street to simply sit back and laugh.

    Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr. LOL

    Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. Just goes to prove what people have been saying about them.

    Sorry, I can't continue. What a bunch of morons.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    A bunch of clueless effing idiots. Sad on top of that. Wall Street does need protested but not by those who would create a list like this. They will only make it worse. It will be easy for Wall Street to simply sit back and laugh.
    I don't know if you should laugh just yet. More and more people actually believe in this horse**** in this country. They actually think this crap is good for the country that it actually has a bit of sense somewhere in there. I do find it funny they call wall street greedy assholes and then have a list that demands products to provided for free, rights to be stripped from other members in society, liberties to stripped from other members of society for their own benefit. I will act like a greedy asshole and then call you greedy assholes. If that doesn't make me look like a complete moron I will make my list contradict itself and be blissfully unaware of it. If someone still can't see the lack of intelligence in the list I will finish it off with this line of nonsense. . ." These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy." They fail on so many levels. . HAHAHAHAHA!
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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    I understand how it might seem that I want an end to poverty. Not true at all and although I realize I rambled a little bit in my entry if you peruse it carefully I never said that. While I do not believe that there will ever be a time when everyone is happy and every single person can live comfortably I do believe that there are significant problems with the division of wealth in our country. The 400 most wealthy American's possess approximately the same total combined wealth as that of the 150 million least wealthy in our country.

    Even if you stat, or Moore's (which is questionable at best) is true, or reasonable, it fails to address the truism that ANYONE in this country has the opportunity to achieve what they want. It isn't hard to break into the middle class, or further if you realize that YOU have to do it, and not wait for someone else to give it to you.

    I also never said I truly embraced the idea of the American Dream where everyone has an opportunity to succeed. It doesn't exist and that's the problem
    Why do you think that? Of course it exists. But, no one is going to just give it to you.

    I don't disagree that the demands being put forward aren't sensible or realistic. But they're doing something and while they bear responsibility for the legal consequences of the actions they take I don't think it takes away from the core idea of what they're fighting for.
    And what is that exactly? From what I see it would be the end of capitalism.

    It's possible that I'm to optimistic but it's also possible your too cynical to want to accomplish anything.
    What would be accomplished in this country by destroying business? What would be accomplished by ending a representative republic in favor of a pure democracy? Which by the way would give up freedoms, not free you.

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    Re: More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Even if you stat, or Moore's (which is questionable at best) is true, or reasonable, it fails to address the truism that ANYONE in this country has the opportunity to achieve what they want. It isn't hard to break into the middle class, or further if you realize that YOU have to do it, and not wait for someone else to give it to you.



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    I'm just going to address this portion. Sure, techincally it is POSSIBLE. But is it likely? It is possible to win the lottery, but not likely that most will. And too often, good people can't see their real options. And it is not unreasonabel to note that the person who starts the race with a two lap headstart will likely win more often than the one who doesn't, or who is held back by some burden. So, while it is again technically true that success is POSSIBLE. It is fair to ask how likely it is? And to not praise those who get the head start too much or condemn those who have much to overcome too much. We should try and keep some perspective.

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