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    Re: Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    No, Koch stopped about the same time as GE and dozens of other companies that were selling products to Iran.

    Your excuses for GE, while condemning Koch speaks volumes about the ethics of the left.
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    In May 2008, a unit of Koch Industries Inc., one of the world’s largest privately held companies, sent Ludmila Egorova-Farines, its newly hired compliance officer and ethics manager, to investigate the management of a subsidiary in Arles in southern France. In less than a week, she discovered that the company had paid bribes to win contracts.“I uncovered the practices within a few days,” Egorova- Farines says. “They were not hidden at all.”
    She immediately notified her supervisors in the U.S. A week later, Wichita, Kansas-based Koch Industries dispatched an investigative team to look into her findings, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its November issue.
    By September of that year, the researchers had found evidence of improper payments to secure contracts in six countries dating back to 2002, authorized by the business director of the company’s Koch-Glitsch affiliate in France.
    “Those activities constitute violations of criminal law,” Koch Industries wrote in a Dec. 8, 2008, letter giving details of its findings. The letter was made public in a civil court ruling in France in September 2010; the document has never before been reported by the media.
    That you continue to misstate the facts without any admission of wrong speaks volumes about your ethics.
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    Re: Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    That you continue to misstate the facts without any admission of wrong speaks volumes about your ethics.
    Let me get this straight..........

    You bold the date of an investigation into bribes as some type of proof that they were doing business with Iran in 2008 ????

    You're joking right ?? At least I have facts...........
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    Re: Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Let me get this straight..........

    You bold the date of an investigation into bribes as some type of proof that they were doing business with Iran in 2008 ????

    You're joking right ??
    Apparently the Koch brothers are the Illuminati and the Bilderberg group all rolled up into one big jelly roll.
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    Re: Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Apparently the Koch brothers are the Illuminati and the Bilderberg group all rolled up into one big jelly roll.
    And I bet you will find 666 tattooed on their heads if you shaved them........

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    Re: Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Let me get this straight..........

    You bold the date of an investigation into bribes as some type of proof that they were doing business with Iran in 2008 ????

    You're joking right ?? At least I have facts...........
    In May 2008, a unit of Koch Industries Inc., one of the world’s largest privately held companies, sent Ludmila Egorova-Farines, its newly hired compliance officer and ethics manager, to investigate the management of a subsidiary in Arles in southern France. In less than a week, she discovered that the company had paid bribes to win contracts.“I uncovered the practices within a few days,” Egorova- Farines says. “They were not hidden at all.”
    In May 2008, Egorova-Farines found this was on-going. Koch Brothers did further investigation and an internal letter dated in December says the findings were valid.

    You are the one who needs to get your facts straight.
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    Re: Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales

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    there ya have it folks... it's bad and evil for companies to self regulate.

    this says it all about companies and self regulation

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    Re: Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales

    Amending last statement that Koch Brother sold to Iran until 2008. It was 2007
    While Koch-Glitsch was conducting its internal probe of illicit payments for contracts, the U.S. government was investigating Koch’s European unit on another front: sales to Iran.

    On Aug. 14, 2008, investigators from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security met with George Bentu, who had worked as a sales engineer from 2001 to 2007 for Koch-Glitsch in Germany, Bentu says. In a four-hour interview at the U.S. consulate in Frankfurt, the officials asked about documents showing details of the company’s trades with Iran, he says.

    Internal company records show that Koch Industries used its foreign subsidiary to sidestep a U.S. trade ban barring American companies from selling materials to Iran. Koch-Glitsch offices in Germany and Italy continued selling to Iran until as recently as 2007, the records show.

    The company’s products helped build a methanol plant for Zagros Petrochemical Co., a unit of Iran’s state-owned National Iranian Petrochemical Co., the documents show. The facility, in the coastal city of Bandar Assaluyeh, is now the largest methanol plant in the world, according to IHS Inc., an Englewood, Colorado-based provider of chemicals, energy and economic data.
    Source: same as OP Koch Brothers Flout Law Getting Richer With Secret Iran Sales - Bloomberg
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    Re: Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales

    Who the hell are the Koch brothers and why are they trying to grab the reigns of the anti-tax movement? Or are repo-blicans and demr-rats trying to force these Koch bros as some sorta figure heads for people tired of an overburdening government?

    And on a seperate note:
    FOX = Propaganda. According to them all the Occupy Wallstreet gumption comes from ACORN and all the people protesting against Obamas alliance with wallstreet are actually libbos marching for a libbo Obama. (in my eyes Obama seems to be the opposite of a libertarian...)
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