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Obama: Commander in chief must support gay troops

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Obama: Commander in chief must support gay troops - Yahoo! News

A combative Obama on Saturday criticized Republican presidential candidates for staying silent when the crowd at a recent debate booed a gay soldier who asked a question of the contenders via videotape.


"You want to be commander in chief? You can start by standing up for the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States, even when it's not politically convenient," Obama said during remarks at the annual dinner of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization.

Referencing the boos at the Sept. 22 Republican debate, he said: "We don't believe in standing silent when that happens."


Obama touted his administration's efforts to repeal the military's ban on openly gay service members, as well as his orders to the Justice Department to stop enforcing a law defining marriage as between one man and one woman.
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Good stuff. Democrats constantly get called anti-American for being in opposition to the Iraq war or whatever other vague military intervention du jour. Republicans should get a little bit of their own medicine. They only seem to support the straight troops.
 
He should support THE troops, period - their sex lives shouldn't matter.
 
Hatuey said:
Obama: Commander in chief must support gay troops - Yahoo! News



Good stuff. Democrats constantly get called anti-American for being in opposition to the Iraq war or whatever other vague military intervention du jour. Republicans should get a little bit of their own medicine. They only seem to support the straight troops.
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Actuallly, the Republicans support all the troops. They don't constantly make distinctions over race, sex, or sexual orientation.
 
apdst said:
Actuallly, the Republicans support all the troops. They don't constantly make distinctions over race, sex, or sexual orientation.
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Do you want me to go get quotes from the GOP legislators and candidates responding to the repeal of DADT?
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
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Do you want me to go get quotes from the GOP legislators and candidates responding to the repeal of DADT?
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Sure, go for it. While you're doing that, I'll post the vid where Obama accuses our troops of indiscriminatly killing civilians and other Libbos falsely accusing them of war crimes. Wanna see whose list is longer and uglier?
 
apdst said:
Sure, go for it. While you're doing that, I'll post the vid where Obama accuses our troops of indiscriminatly killing civilians and other Libbos falsely accusing them of war crimes. Wanna see whose list is longer and uglier?
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Not going to hijack this thread for a mud-slinging contest.
 
apdst said:
Actuallly, the Republicans support all the troops. They don't constantly make distinctions over race, sex, or sexual orientation.
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That would explain the booing referenced in the OP.

Oh wait, no it doesn't.
 
Hatuey said:
Obama: Commander in chief must support gay troops - Yahoo! News



Good stuff. Democrats constantly get called anti-American for being in opposition to the Iraq war or whatever other vague military intervention du jour. Republicans should get a little bit of their own medicine. They only seem to support the straight troops.
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Obama's not my guy, but I applaud what he said. The Republican debaters were flat-out wrong. I'm betting they won't make that mistake again.
 
Redress said:
That would explain the booing referenced in the OP.

Oh wait, no it doesn't.
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Yeah, two dudes booed. That's huge.

While we're on the subject, let's talk about it's not the president's place to tell the American people what they can and can't say in public. Kinda goes against the whole free speech craziness that Libbos hate, except when it's them doing the speaking, that is.
 
apdst said:
Actuallly, the Republicans support all the troops. They don't constantly make distinctions over race, sex, or sexual orientation.
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dixiesolutions said:
That's vary correct....
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How do you even talk to people who are able to revise history so quickly?

What, you're saying it wasn't the right-wing fighting tooth and nail to protect policies like DADT? It's not conservatives who were freaking out about the dire impact the DADT repeal would have on morale?
 
Rick Santorum and the people in the crowd are ridiculous. If you are going to tell me that a troop doesn't have a picture of their girlfriend posted up somewhere next to their bed, or wants them on their insurance or wants them to get their benefits you totally miss the point of the DADT repeals.
 
Deuce said:
How do you even talk to people who are able to revise history so quickly?

What, you're saying it wasn't the right-wing fighting tooth and nail to protect policies like DADT? It's not conservatives who were freaking out about the dire impact the DADT repeal would have on morale?
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it was Log cabin Republicans who filed the suit agasint DADT ...that ended in a decision of DADT being unconstitutional.

at the time is was passed, Democrat Sam Nunn led the opposition for keeping the total ban on homosexuals.. and Republican Barry Goldwater led the charge for full repeal... Clinton compromised with DADT.



what was that about historical revision again?
 
apdst said:
Yeah, two dudes booed. That's huge.

While we're on the subject, let's talk about it's not the president's place to tell the American people what they can and can't say in public. Kinda goes against the whole free speech craziness that Libbos hate, except when it's them doing the speaking, that is.
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Was it only 2? I have not seen the video so do not know.

The president did not say that. He said the candidates should have stood up for the serviceman. This is a large, unsubtle difference. Code Pink and the Westborough Church have every right to make asses of themselves, but we should all stand up for our troops and call those 2 idiots for what they are.
 
Thrilla said:
it was Log cabin Republicans who filed the suit agasint DADT ...that ended in a decision of DADT being unconstitutional.

at the time is was passed, Democrat Sam Nunn led the opposition for keeping the total ban on homosexuals.. and Republican Barry Goldwater led the charge for full repeal... Clinton compromised with DADT.



what was that about historical revision again?
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The issue is the wanna be leaders at the debate should have spoken up for the soldier at the time. The man who would be President has to stand up for the right things.
 
tryreading said:
The issue is the wanna be leaders at the debate should have spoken up for the soldier at the time. The man who would be President has to stand up for the right things.
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i was responding to Duece.. who had a very different and more partisan angle on the issue.

the President is in campaign mode... I expect him to say such things.. especially standing in front of a gay rights group.

if i were to be disappointed every time a politicians stood silent when stupid things were said or done, i'd have killed myself in depression by now.
I mean come on, this stuff is silly and go on and on for day and days.

for instance.. why didn't Obama stand up for the FBI when Dick Durbin laid out his famous FBI -Gulag-pol pot comparison.. shouldn't the chief-executive-to-be stand up for his FBI agents?.. omgomgomg Obama hates the FBI!


don't bother answering the question, btw... it's not a "real" question.. just an example of how this partisan crap can go back and forth.
 
Redress said:
Was it only 2? I have not seen the video so do not know.
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Watch it, it's not as climactic as it's been made out to be.

The president did not say that. He said the candidates should have stood up for the serviceman. This is a large, unsubtle difference. Code Pink and the Westborough Church have every right to make asses of themselves, but we should all stand up for our troops and call those 2 idiots for what they are.
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We should, yes, but the president shouldn't. How many times has Obama set WBC and Code Pink straight? Did Obama say anything when Jack Murtha falsely accused four Marines of murder?

I've never seen Obama set anyone straight, when they hoisted the most shameful of accusations and insults on our troops. But now, a couple cats boo a gay soldier and it's all of a sudden the president's job to say something about it?

How should we define this?

1) Political correctness run amuck?

2) Obama exploiting our troops to score political points?

3) Obama is just stupid?

4) Obama is so desperate to score some kind of political victory, that he's latching on to anything he can?

What should we call it?
 
tryreading said:
The issue is the wanna be leaders at the debate should have spoken up for the soldier at the time. The man who would be President has to stand up for the right things.
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Obama never did it. Didn't see anyone bitching about it, then.
 
Deuce said:
How do you even talk to people who are able to revise history so quickly?

What, you're saying it wasn't the right-wing fighting tooth and nail to protect policies like DADT? It's not conservatives who were freaking out about the dire impact the DADT repeal would have on morale?
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Show me where I revised history. As always, thanks in advance...although, you won't be able to do it.

Here's some history for you:

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. --Dick Durbin (D)
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Thrilla said:
i was responding to Duece.. who had a very different and more partisan angle on the issue.

the President is in campaign mode... I expect him to say such things.. especially standing in front of a gay rights group.

if i were to be disappointed every time a politicians stood silent when stupid things were said or done, i'd have killed myself in depression by now.
I mean come on, this stuff is silly and go on and on for day and days.

for instance.. why didn't Obama stand up for the FBI when Dick Durbin laid out his famous FBI -Gulag-pol pot comparison.. shouldn't the chief-executive-to-be stand up for his FBI agents?.. omgomgomg Obama hates the FBI!


don't bother answering the question, btw... it's not a "real" question.. just an example of how this partisan crap can go back and forth.
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I understand what you're saying, but my point is at least one of the people on stage could have shown some nuts. Doesn't have anything to do with the current President.
 
apdst said:
Actuallly, the Republicans support all the troops. They don't constantly make distinctions over race, sex, or sexual orientation.
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Apparently some of their more vocal supporters do.
 
tryreading said:
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As far as gay soldiers, you're saying he never stood up for them?
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ohhhhhhhhhhh, so it's just about gay soldiers? Not all of our soldiers, just the gay ones.

Hey dude, I get it!
 
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