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    US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

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    The Pentagon has decided that military chaplains may perform same-sex unions, whether on or off a military installation.
    In the wake of the repeal of DADT, this move by the Pentagon is going to really piss off the religious right, but is it wrong? Discussion?

    Article is here.
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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    I am almost entirely for anything that pisses off the religious right.

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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In the wake of the repeal of DADT, this move by the Pentagon is going to really piss off the religious right, but is it wrong? Discussion?

    Article is here.
    It's not wrong, unless chaplains are forced to perform same sex marriages, against their will. We start stepping off into the whole freedom of religion thing at that point.
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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not wrong, unless chaplains are forced to perform same sex marriages, against their will. We start stepping off into the whole freedom of religion thing at that point.
    What are the rules concerning chaplains performing religious ceremonies? I don't understand the obligations of the position.

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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    What are the rules concerning chaplains performing religious ceremonies? I don't understand the obligations of the position.
    The Chaplain has to agree to perform the ceremony, I'm not sure if the Chaplain can require the couple to do anything regarding pre-marriage acts but I know he can refuse if he doesn't want to marry them. That being said, if he refuses he still would be required if the couple asked to use resources in his position and community to find another chaplain they may find acceptable whether on or off post.

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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    What are the rules concerning chaplains performing religious ceremonies? I don't understand the obligations of the position.
    The rules are, a chaplain isn't required to perform an ceremony/commit an act that he feels is contrary to his religious beliefs. Hence the reason that chaplains aren't forced to serve under arms.
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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    The Chaplain has to agree to perform the ceremony, I'm not sure if the Chaplain can require the couple to do anything regarding pre-marriage acts but I know he can refuse if he doesn't want to marry them. That being said, if he refuses he still would be required if the couple asked to use resources in his position and community to find another chaplain they may find acceptable whether on or off post.
    That is correct. He couldn't deny them the use of a post chapel...I don't think he could, anyway.
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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not wrong, unless chaplains are forced to perform same sex marriages, against their will. We start stepping off into the whole freedom of religion thing at that point.
    This is my feeling exactly. As long as it remains 'may' and doesn't become 'must' then I have no issues with military chaplains performing same-sex marriages.
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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not wrong, unless chaplains are forced to perform same sex marriages, against their will. We start stepping off into the whole freedom of religion thing at that point.
    From the source article:

    The Pentagon says a military chaplain may officiate at any private ceremony, but isn't required if it would conflict with his or her religious or personal beliefs.
    Your concern was taken into account, and that is the absolute correct way to handle it: allow, don't mandate.
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    Re: US: military chaplains may perform same-sex unions

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In the wake of the repeal of DADT, this move by the Pentagon is going to really piss off the religious right, but is it wrong? Discussion?

    Article is here.
    The Religious Right is a social entity. DADT is not a social policy. It doesn't matter if one pisses off the other. They are mutually exclusive.

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