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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What lies?? If you have a problem with him being dead now, you have a problem with his death. As to ad homs, I don't see any from me. You called me a hypocrite and I called you an idealist.

    Nevertheless, perhaps I've been antagonistic. If so, accept my apology.
    No need to apologize for your antagonism as I am culpable also. (I actually believe that a little antagonism is healthy for conversation and arriving at the truth). Nonetheless, I have no problem with Anwar al-Awlaki's death. I have a problem on how it was conducted.

    Earlier, you claimed that we live in unprecedented times. You are right to a degree. However, terrorism has existed for thousands of years. What is unprecedented is the President of the United States placing assassination orders on U.S. citizens. This is unprecedented.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    This is the problem. He did have rights. One does not lose their rights simply because someone else disagree's with their choices.
    he renounced his citizenship when he joined Al Qaeda and swore to make Jihad against the USA in a foreign land.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    No need to apologize for your antagonism as I am culpable also. (I actually believe that a little antagonism is healthy for conversation and arriving at the truth). Nonetheless, I have no problem with Anwar al-Awlaki's death. I have a problem on how it was conducted.

    Earlier, you claimed that we live in unprecedented times. You are right to a degree. However, terrorism has existed for thousands of years. What is unprecedented is the President of the United States placing assassination orders on U.S. citizens. This is unprecedented.
    I agree with your thoughts about antagonism. ;-)

    Your last sentence gave me pause. Then as I reflected on it, I thought, "Are we sure?" The CIA conducted this mission. I'd say this is just the first one we found out about.

    I understand your position. Time will tell as to whether or not this act will be perceived as a violation of the law.
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    he renounced his citizenship when he joined Al Qaeda and swore to make Jihad against the USA in a foreign land.
    It's been covered. He neither renounced his citizenship nor has it been removed from him. Again, a very good example of the problem here. One can not have their citizenship removed because we do not like their actions.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Your last sentence gave me pause. Then as I reflected on it, I thought, "Are we sure?" The CIA conducted this mission. I'd say this is just the first one we found out about.
    This is a tangent, but the CIA has a long history of conducting rogue operations under the radar; from overthrowing nascent democracies, to drug peddling, to almost committing a nuclear holocaust, among other things.

    I am personally not a fan of this organization and think that they need to go. They are an organization, like our current President, who operates above the rule of law.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It's been covered. He neither renounced his citizenship nor has it been removed from him. Again, a very good example of the problem here. One can not have their citizenship removed because we do not like their actions.
    no, but if you renounce your citizenship and join the armed-forces of an enemy nation, your citizenship can be revoked. it says so in my passport.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, but if you renounce your citizenship and join the armed-forces of an enemy nation, your citizenship can be revoked. it says so in my passport.
    I answered that question already in previous pages.



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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    I answered that question already in previous pages.
    i have read a rebuttal of this and about the SCOTUS case. however, I believe that joining an enemy combatant group that has sworn to destroy the USA while in a foreign land, counts as renouncing one's citizenship.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, but if you renounce your citizenship and join the armed-forces of an enemy nation, your citizenship can be revoked. it says so in my passport.
    I think I saw this hanging in some museum D.C........ He never renounced his citizenship.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    i have read a rebuttal of this and about the SCOTUS case. however, I believe that joining an enemy combatant group that has sworn to destroy the USA while in a foreign land, counts as renouncing one's citizenship.
    Cool but more importantly, the courts disagree.

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