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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Take away the 'American Citizen' aspect and you are fine with the CiC killing terrorists.
    yes.

    the "American citizen" aspect, however, cannot be taken away... it's reality whether or not you want it to be.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

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    I most certainly think that it's something to be concerned and wary of. There used to be methods by which this was done, writ of reprisal (a power properly belonging to Congress); but we don't and now one man can apparently order the execution of American citizens and no one will bat an eye. Who else is so evil we don't care what the government does? Child molesters? Murderers? Rapists?

    There is always concern when government becomes unconstrained.
    Terrorists operating in foreign land. I just think it is mind bending that people make the distinction that...welll...sure...kill the terrorist to the left of him, and kill the terrorist to the right of him...but...not...him...

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    here that "whoosh" sound?... that's the particulars of the issue flying over your head....
    Nothing is flying over anyones head...that constant whooshing sound...you should be used to it since there is so little between your ears to curb the air flow. Your position...kill him...kill him...kill him...kill hi...no...wait...not him...he was born in Anaheim...kill him...and him...and him....

    yeah...it is just that stupid.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Terrorists operating in foreign land. I just think it is mind bending that people make the distinction that...welll...sure...kill the terrorist to the left of him, and kill the terrorist to the right of him...but...not...him...
    I would go further than that. Either you have support of the sovereign nation to allow POLICE action, or you declare war if you want to blow the **** out of them. Writ of Reprisal where necessary.

    All good and Constitutional. I'm not saying we can't; I'm merely saying that the government should follow the rules.
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Terrorists operating in foreign land. I just think it is mind bending that people make the distinction that...welll...sure...kill the terrorist to the left of him, and kill the terrorist to the right of him...but...not...him...
    which terrorist, to the left or right, were on the targeted killing list?
    don't take umbrage with people making a distinction when the CinCs you are defending have made the distinctions themselves .. and then put em on a kill list.

    here's an idea....get rid of the kill list altogether.
    there would be no need for evidence or oversight, and we probably wouldn't be having this discussion...all kills would be "targets of opportunity".

    but if you are going to have a list of people to smoke, and Americans are on that list,they had better have some sort of legal backing to do so... otherwise, it's an affront to our entire system of justice.
    and what the f*ck are we fighting for if not our way of life?... just to kill mean brown people?

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nothing is flying over anyones head...that constant whooshing sound...you should be used to it since there is so little between your ears to curb the air flow. Your position...kill him...kill him...kill him...kill hi...no...wait...not him...he was born in Anaheim...kill him...and him...and him....

    yeah...it is just that stupid.
    nope, that's not my position.... try again.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I would go further than that. Either you have support of the sovereign nation to allow POLICE action, or you declare war if you want to blow the **** out of them. Writ of Reprisal where necessary.

    All good and Constitutional. I'm not saying we can't; I'm merely saying that the government should follow the rules.
    thumbs up.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I would go further than that. Either you have support of the sovereign nation to allow POLICE action, or you declare war if you want to blow the **** out of them. Writ of Reprisal where necessary.

    All good and Constitutional. I'm not saying we can't; I'm merely saying that the government should follow the rules.
    Well...we COULD (and your scenario we would have to) just pull back, lock down the borders, and leave it to the other countries to deal with it. Im fine with that...so long as they dont target US interests. There is a reason why we do it...

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    which terrorist, to the left or right, were on the targeted killing list?
    don't take umbrage with people making a distinction when the CinCs you are defending have made the distinctions themselves .. and then put em on a kill list.

    here's an idea....get rid of the kill list altogether.
    there would be no need for evidence or oversight, and we probably wouldn't be having this discussion...all kills would be "targets of opportunity".

    but if you are going to have a list of people to smoke, and Americans are on that list,they had better have some sort of legal backing to do so... otherwise, it's an affront to our entire system of justice.
    and what the f*ck are we fighting for if not our way of life?... just to kill mean brown people?
    We are fighting to prevent that particular collection of brown skinned people (with the occasional lighter colored brother thrown in the mix) from slaugtering innocent men women and children. And its beyond comical that you injected race into this. Thats ****ing pathetic dood.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We are fighting to prevent that particular collection of brown skinned people (with the occasional lighter colored brother thrown in the mix) from slaugtering innocent men women and children. And its beyond comical that you injected race into this. Thats ****ing pathetic dood.
    I should have figured you would have seized on some perceived racism and ignored the rest of the post.

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