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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    FACT: one loses his citizenship when he knowingly & willfully enlists in the armed forces of another country, let alone the armed forces of an enemy nation or a terrorist organization who has sworn to kill American citizens.

    doubt me? read your passport.
    I thought our enemies weren't a foreign army...they were unlawful combantants therefore not subject to the Geneva conventions..it's not as much the fact we did this but the fact we allow our leaders to warp our laws and treaties and basically rip and tear up any claim to exceptionalism we have. Maybe some consistency would be nice!

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    As others have said, we could have given him due process even if he is not present. Then we could have killed the bastard. The two goals are not mutually exclusive.
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    So, to defend ourselves, we have to have a court decide who the enemy is? Our enemies are entitled to the due process our Constitution provides? No. Why do you assume this jamoke wasn't guilty?

    They have emails that verify this information....and proof aplenty on UTube that he was recruiting terrorists to destroy the enemy.

    Where the defense of our country is concerned, I'm comfortable leaving those decisions in the hands of our military and our commander-in-chief. We are targetting our enemies and will destroy them. Good luck to us.
    You didn't read what I wrote very carefully at all. Nowhere did I say I thought he was innocent.

    If the government decides that war protestors also count as "aiding the enemy," they can murder them. There's nobody they have to show evidence to.

    Yes, the government of the United States should have to prove that somebody is worthy of targeted death. No, goddamnit, the government should not have the power to assassinate without oversight. Enemy or not. We're the United States of America and we're supposed to be better than our enemies.
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Seriously does anyone else find it peculiar that you have the conservatives saying they US shouldnt have killed a terrorist and moderates and liberals saying good riddance...LOL....WOW...talk about reversals, flips and high dives....truth is...if anyone else other than a conservative or paul said it...they would be a whimpy lib wussy thats coddling the terrorists blahblahblah..
    I'm glad that some Libertarians on this board are remaining consistent to their ideals even when it's not easy. If you agree in basic Liberties ecspecially the liberties protected by our Constitution you agree with them even when inconvienent. I am by no means a constitutionalists but targeting and killing a US citizen makes me very uncomfortable no matter the circumstances. How many laws are we going to virtually rip up in the "War on Terror"?

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I thought our enemies weren't a foreign army...they were unlawful combantants therefore not subject to the Geneva conventions..it's not as much the fact we did this but the fact we allow our leaders to warp our laws and treaties and basically rip and tear up any claim to exceptionalism we have. Maybe some consistency would be nice!
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    It's not like a couple of FBI agents could fly to Yemen, find him in the tribal lands, cuff him, and then whisk him back to the US for trial.

    That would be quite impossible. The video of their beheading would be uploaded to YouTube.

    Congrats to the US drone team in Nevada that took out this ass-clown.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, goddamnit, the government should not have the power to assassinate without oversight.
    Why do you believe he was killed without oversight? I suspect there were lots of lawyers arguing the fine points of killing an American unlawful combatant in this very unusual war. The war against Islamofascism will not look like any of our recent past wars.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

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    Not derailment, but rather a litmus test for consitancy.
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Ron Paul is a crazy. He believes in American concepts like the rule of law and habeas corpus.

    It is unfortunate that I live in a day and age where many Americans are hostile to concepts like due process and habeas corpus. They believe that the executive branch does not have to uphold these ideals and are exempt from them in order to act in a rogue manner.

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