I do not know that we will ever be privy to all here. However, there is a process. I do not have the time to dig, but at least a few of the earlier links reference findings presented by the CIA. There was at least one House hearing on this last year when Al-Dirtbag was designated for sanction. Every Court that hs looked at this so far has ruled that the Executive does have this authority. And lastly, we need to be more finite in the use of the word "assassinate". Military targets are just that, they are "targeted". While "assassinate" can be used to describe almost any killing where we actually aimed at the victim, it usually apples to political killings, not military.
My feeling was that Ron Paul was being political in using the word "assassinate" to describe a military hit, as he is in campaign mode, and that it was a poor choice on his part. His sole point of contention seemed to be that this perp had been a citizen. The armed enemy, on foreign soil, beyond our ability to easily arrest, is a 100% prime grade-A target for killing by any means possible, IMMHO.
Last edited by Eighty Deuce; 10-02-11 at 09:00 AM.
not bad at all... but you are certainly in no position to insinuate that i'm some sort of sissy peace-nic... not even close.
like you, i come from military lineage... except my family was rooted in the Corps.. all the way back to my great grandfather
I hung up my rifle ( the first time) in 1993 ..after serving 23 years.
when I enlisted, I ,too, was considered "support".. MOS 5923.. (HAWk missile Hi-power illuminator radar tech).. my first deployment was to Monkey Mountain.. outside of Da Nang... as a boot, i didn't get to do my actual job though.. i spent time in Graves and registration at Da Nang proper ( with nightly excusions to dogpatch for whiskey and wimmin)... I reenlisted for infantry.. and that where I hung my hat until the Corps decided to promote me enough times as to ensure I didn't carry a rifle anymore, but to lead Marines instead.
after 23+ years, 5 Combat actions ribbons, 2 purple hearts, and over 50 months ,total, of actually fighting Americans enemies, I think i've earned ..at the very least.. the right NOT to be called a sissy by Air Force support staff.
so, now I think we can stow the bullsh*t and get to debating like adults.
It is now settled law that every U.S. citizen may renounce citizenship at any time. On the other hand, the government may not withdraw nationality from a citizen based on any actions the citizen takes; loss of citizenship can only result when the there is clear evidence that the person intends to expatriate.
Since 1990, the Department of State policy based on these laws and court rulings has been to revoke an individual's citizenship if and only if an individual appears in person at a U.S. embassy or consulate abroad and explicitly declares his intention to renounce citizenship.
History of Expatriation Law | Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship: A Web Guide
after researching a bit.. it seems we have no legal mechanism for trials in absentia ( whether we should or not is a separate debate, I think)... but there has to be some sort of alternative to simple unchecked executive power when it comes to targeted killings of American citizens.
In our justice system you are innocent until proven guilty. It would have been very easy to have proven his guilt if all that is claimed is fact.We had a hearing in the House. Meanwhile, Al-Dirtbag is actively engaged in plotting to kill more US citizens. Apparently not concerned that we might revoke bail ................ oh wait.
The Air Force are not sissies either. Although in one joint assignment it was made clear to me by an Air Force sergeant (E7, I think) that they considered it to be a field deployment if they were further than 2 kilometers from a golf course or NCO club.
I started out in air defense as a Chaparral platoon leader. It was a couple of weeks back. From there I transferred into military intelligence. I dabbled in nuclear command and control (I especially liked targeting). And in my final assignment training.