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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    ..He is worrying about his fellow Americans from becoming such victims from our own government and following the Constitution. To me, Ron Paul is a hero for speaking out which says words about where has our country fallen off too. I don't like what we've have become. With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. The first time any man’s freedom is trodden on, we’re all damaged....
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Two out of the first three stating an opinion that Paul was wrong came from those who lean is liberal. No condemnation there?
    Those people are in the "short-sighted" list.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    What's really sad is I'm guessing what Dr. Paul said will fly over the heads of many people. He thinks intricately and makes his points similarly. So even though he's rather intelligent and supportive of individual freedom he comes across sounding "crazy" or "anti-American" because he doesn't run with the rest of the lemmings towards the cliff's edge.
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Those people are in the "short-sighted" list.
    Targeted for execution, no due process. Justice is swift!

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    Targeted for execution, no due process. Justice is swift!....
    yes, if you betray our country and join our enemies in foreign lands and participate in the planning & carrying-out of terrorist attacks against our civilian population, the rules may be adjusted just for you.


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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Paul's is a valid question and it's why we need people like Paul to ask them. Jasonxe posts exactly why it's a valid question. It's not as simple as "you can't kill an American citizen" without a trial but the facts are, the government knew they were going to target him so they could have held a trial. He doesn't have to be present for a trial to be held.
    I'll grant that this isn't all black and white that there are other considerations but all the same, it certainly should give everyone pause that the government can just kill an American citizen based only on the idea that he was involved in something. If they believe he was a threat to the U.S., I would even consider the idea of a military trial as being valid.
    This is a different arguement than what would have applied to OBL. He did not have Constitutional Rights.
    It's worth noting at this point that the Fed Gov has recently tried to claim that the continental US constitutes a battlefield for legal purposes--they can follow the rules for battlefield situations here in the domestic US--because the War on Terror can be fought anywhere.

    And Paul does have a point that this is a dangerous precedent.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    FACT: enemy combatants captured in the USA who are American citizens, retain their Constitutional rights.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, if you betray our country and join our enemies in foreign lands and participate in the planning & carrying-out of terrorist attacks against our civilian population, the rules may be adjusted just for you.

    Am I still not a U.S Citizen? What proof do you have of me commiting these charges? Am I to die without a hearing?
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    THIS is the reason that Ron Paul could never be POTUS. Dr. Paul fails to realize that there are times when the best interests of the nation have to be put above some ridiculous bit of technicality.
    a minor technicality




    I am not sure that abandoning the Bill of Rights actually serves "the best interests of the nation." ymmv
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    Am I still not a U.S Citizen? What proof do you have of me commiting these charges? Am I to die without a hearing?
    FACT: one loses his citizenship when he knowingly & willfully enlists in the armed forces of another country, let alone the armed forces of an enemy nation or a terrorist organization who has sworn to kill American citizens.

    doubt me? read your passport.
    Last edited by Thunder; 09-30-11 at 07:06 PM.

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