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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sensibility View Post
    You mess with the bull, you get the horns.

    Al-Awlaki knew which side he was on. He signed up to fight for the enemy. Sorry, I can't muster any sympathy; my Give-a-Damn's all busted.

    Obama is mostly following the policies of the previous administration (which he criticized to no end), and I congratulate him--and especially our military--for their successes.
    It isn't about Al-Awlaki.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

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    You asked for it Maggie

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Ron Paul did have a valid point, but his claim that Al-Awlaki "might" have been a radical terrorist is not only blind stupidity, but shows how he's very unelectable
    I really hate this type of talk also BUT it's actually how officials must address those accused of things until found guilty. Unfortunately, Loughner is still an alleged shooter.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Seems Ron Paul thought too many folks were seeing him as more-mainstream, so he had to do something to remind us that he is essentially a kook.

    Folks, if an American citizen, in Pudunk, Iowa, gets a gun, and takes hostages in an McD's because he didn't get any ketchup with his fries, what is the "due process" ? If he whacks a hostage, what is the due process ? If he threatens to whack more, what is the due process ? At what point is he due the process of a sniper bullet doing process through his brain ?

    Whacking Al-Dirtbag is not that dissimilar. To think otherwise, as Ron Loon Paul has done, is to suspend common sense. Had Al-Dirtbag been able to engineer the detonation of a small nuke in a town larger than Podunk, and kill maybe 250K or more, then lets anticipate cheering President Ron Paul when he visits ground zero in a nuke suit saying "We followed due process".

    OBTW, were such to happen, and the Founders able to come back from the grave, they would shoot Ron Paul.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    except it is about the specifics of his case.

    when you declare war against the United States of America, you are renouncing your citizenship. it is not worth the lives of citizens who are still citizens of this nation to hold on to the fiction that you did not.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It isn't about Al-Awlaki.
    Yes. It is.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    For those who are upset about Anwar Al-Awlaki being killed by drones, would you have a problem if he had been captured and taken to Gitmo?
    I don't think anyone is upset that he was killed by drones.

    If so, where was your rage when Himdy Yaser, a man born in Baton Rouge, LA, was detained at Gitmo and when Jose Padilla (born in Brooklyn, NY) was detained in a military brig. The left was decrying these actions loudly at that that time saying that these men deserved due process since they were US citizens and the US had them in custody.
    They both were ruled to have Constitutional rights, no? Padilla was tried and found guilty. Yaser was deported after voluntarily giving up his citizenship. The Bush administration was wrong to have held them without a trial and the courts said so.

    It's wrong to hold a citizen without a trial but not to kill them?

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    except it is about the specifics of his case.

    when you declare war against the United States of America, you are renouncing your citizenship. it is not worth the lives of citizens who are still citizens of this nation to hold on to the fiction that you did not.
    The courts have ruled specifically what must happen for a citizen to lose their rights and that has not happened.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Yes. It is.
    It isn't. It's about the big picture whether or not the United States can kill citizens without due process.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The courts have ruled specifically what must happen for a citizen to lose their rights and that has not happened.
    i really couldn't care less what the courts have ruled in this case - the citizen retains his sovereignty, which means he is free to dispose of his citizenship as he see's fit with or without the courts' approval. al-Awlaki chose to remove his, and that was his right. then he chose to declare war on the US, and that was his right too. so we chose to kill him, and that was our right as well.

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