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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Cool but more importantly, the courts disagree.
    the courts tackled a case indentical to this one?

    when/where/how?

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I think I saw this hanging in some museum D.C........ He never renounced his citizenship.
    he did when he swore Jihad in Yemen and joined Al Qaeda, while in Yemen.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Passport: Loss of U.S. Citizenship: Under certain circumstances, you may lose your U.S. citizenship by performing, voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship, any of the following acts: 1) being naturalized in a foreign state; 2) raking an oath or making a declaration to a foreign state; 3) serving in the armed forces of a foreign state.
    Al Qaeda is a militant group, not a foreign state.
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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the courts tackled a case indentical to this one?

    when/where/how?
    I'm not going down that road with you. The courts have ruled on this. I've provided the links. He was an American citizen.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I'm not going down that road with you. The courts have ruled on this. I've provided the links. He was an American citizen.
    the case involved voting in a foreign election.....NOT declaring violent illegal warfare against the American civilian population & joining an illegal army, while in a foreign land.

    two very different circumstances.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    Al Qaeda is a militant group, not a foreign state.
    correct: they are an illegal militant group.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the case involved voting in a foreign election.....NOT declaring violent illegal warfare against the American civilian population & joining an illegal army, while in a foreign land.

    two very different circumstances.
    The court stated what must happen to lose ones citizenship.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The court stated what must happen to lose ones citizenship.
    yes, one must renounce it. joining a terrorist organization that is sworn to kill American civilians, while in a foreign land, and participating in the planning of such attacks, counts as renouncing one's citizenship.

    come on now, the 14th Amendment is not a suicide pact.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, one must renounce it. joining a terrorist organization that is sworn to kill American civilians, while in a foreign land, and participating in the planning of such attacks, counts as renouncing one's citizenship.

    come on now, the 14th Amendment is not a suicide pact.
    The courts say otherwise.

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    Re: Ron Paul: US-born al-Qaida cleric 'assassinated'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, one must renounce it. joining a terrorist organization that is sworn to kill American civilians, while in a foreign land, and participating in the planning of such attacks, counts as renouncing one's citizenship.

    come on now, the 14th Amendment is not a suicide pact.
    No it doesn't.



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