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Yemen says U.S.-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed

dirtpoorchris said:
Airstrikes. What a *****, unhonorable way to wage war.
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When you don some ACU's, put your boots in the dirt, and earn a patch on your right shoulder, you can talk **** about how war is waged. "Honor" causes unnecessary deaths, and ensures mission failure, because war is about making the other ****s die for their country.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
So the US extrajudicially assassinated one of its own citizens?
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If he's posing a threat to the country and it's impossible or too risky to try and capture him as he's in hostile territory then removing the threat by assassinating him is completely legitimate. I'd also say it falls under the right to self-defense as his existence is posing an active threat to the security of the nation and its people. That he is a citizen of the US doesn't change a thing.
 
Paschendale said:
Let's hope this doesn't inspire further retaliation.
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If there is retaliation, the attackers position themselves in the open to be destroyed. That would basically make the killing of these two clowns a, "recon by fire".
 
Khayembii Communique said:
The target was a US citizen, and it does not matter what jurisdiction he was under as it was extrajudicial regardless (unless you can provide some information on his trial in Yemen?).
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Well, better late than never that you find out that dropping a bomb on someone is "extra-judicial". We call it "war" for short. Whether this person had at one time or another been a US citizen, or even still claimed to be one, was trumped by the fact that they were designated enemy on foreign soil.

Tell you what though. You get a gun, and you go over there, and you find one to arrest, and then return to justice.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
This affects your rights.
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What about the rights of innocent people? This man's existence was based on trying to violate those rights. Taking the guy out was the right thing to do.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
If you violate the rights of others, you are breaking the law and indicted.
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Al Awlaki was breaking the law and violated the rights of others. News has surfaced saying he was actively seeking WMD's to use in his murder of innocent people. It was for the best that he was killed so that the lives of others may not be taken by a murderous man. The Obama administration made the right call on this.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
If you violate the rights of others, you are breaking the law and indicted.
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Unless, you're operating as an international terrorist, whose hell bent on destroying the country. In that case, you get a side-winder in your ass, while you're eating supper.
 
I, speaking only for myself, can't feel good about the extra-judicial killing of an American citizen. Clearly, if he was in fact a terrorist leader (which seems very likeky) planning attacks against the US, he's an enemy of the state. We should all hesitate to quickly endorse the targeted assassination of citizens however, and I only hope that this was done because no options for his capture and trial were possible.
 
nijato said:
I, speaking only for myself, can't feel good about the extra-judicial killing of an American citizen. Clearly, if he was in fact a terrorist leader (which seems very likeky) planning attacks against the US, he's an enemy of the state. We should all hesitate to quickly endorse the targeted assassination of citizens however, and I only hope that this was done because no options for his capture and trial were possible.
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That should be fairly obvious, since he was holed up in Yemen. It's not like the guy was living in Ottumwa, Iowa and I think that's a huge point that some folks are missing.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
So the US extrajudicially assassinated one of its own citizens?
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The day he became a terrorist and turned against America and moved out of the states he stopped being a citizen. If he didn't want to be treated like any other terrorist then he should have went back to the US and surrendered.
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
Airstrikes. What a *****, unhonorable way to wage war.
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In warfare there is no such thing as proportionate or disproportionate response. That is something Israeli bashers made up to whine about Israel wiping out terrorists. I value the life of a soldier and law enforcement agent more than I do some piece of **** who betrayed his country by siding with the enemy and left it.So I would rather a bomb be dropped on that piece of **** than for an American solder or law enforcement agent risk their life to go kill or arrest some piece of **** terrorist traitor.
 
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Thunder said:
I have zero doubt that capture was simply not a viable option. We captured KSM, did we not?
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We didn't. The Paki intel outfit captured him in a raid on his home.

How closely do Yemeni intel services work with the United States?

Look at the bright side: Awlaki is dead, so there won't be any boo-hooing about him getting roughed up a little.
 
Libs. If you are that worried about losing your "rights" as Al-Dirtbag did, then I have some excellent advice. Don't put a towel on your head, then move to Yemen, then engage in the planning and implementation of attacks against the US of A and its non-hostile citizens. And last but not least, when you see yourself on the news, falsely accused of being an enemy of the US of A, then turn yourself in to US authorities, and we will straightren it out "judiciously".
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Libs. If you are that worried about losing your "rights" as Al-Dirtbag did, then I have some excellent advice. Don't put a towel on your head, then move to Yemen, then engage in the planning and implementation of attacks against the US of A and its non-hostile citizens....
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#1. I am a Liberal and totally support this action.

#2. Your racism is not needed.
 
jamesrage said:
In warfare there is no such thing as proportionate or disproportionate response. That is something Israeli bashers made up to whine about Israel wiping out terrorists. I value the life of a soldier and law enforcement agent more than I do some piece of **** who betrayed his country by siding with the enemy and left it.So I would rather a bomb be dropped on that piece of **** than for an American solder or law enforcement agent risk their life to go kill or arrest some piece of **** terrorist traitor.
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While I wholeheartedly applaud this killing/assassination or whatever they call it, this here is a load of horse****.

Aside from that, DPC's comment was about honor, not about disproportionate responses.
 
Thunder said:
#1. I am a Liberal and totally support this action.

#2. Your racism is not needed.
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I was addressing those who did not agree, and thank you for your position on that aspect. However, you need to learn what racism is, and is not. The process that I laid out was not predicated to only putting a towel on one's head. It was the whole sequence. For instance, I can put my bath towel on my head right now and not worry about a bomb dropping on my head as a result.

Otherwise, you know where to put your race card.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
I was addressing those who did not agree, and thank you for your position on that aspect. However, you need to learn what racism is, and is not. Otherwise, you know where to put your race card.
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I am not the one playing the race card.
 
Thunder said:
I am not the one playing the race card.
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Then explain to us all what the "race card" was. Al dirt-bag was a white guy, btw. Get a clue.

Here's a hint. "Jihadist" is not a race.
 
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