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    White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    BBC News - White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law
    The White House has asked the Supreme Court to uphold its healthcare law, inviting a possible high-stakes legal showdown just before the 2012 election. The administration's move came after a challenge to the reform from 26 states and small businesses.
    The justice department asked the Supreme Court to declare the law's key provision, requiring everyone to buy health insurance, constitutional.

    The legislation extended health coverage to an extra 32 million people.
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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    Should be interesting if they take the case a ruling will come down in the middle of a presidential campaign.

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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Should be interesting if they take the case a ruling will come down in the middle of a presidential campaign.
    I've read something today - I think it was on Politico - that Obama is requesting it to be reviewed now because he suspects that the SC will rule the individual mandate (possibly the entire bill) unconstituional and it will give him something to run on/against.

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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    Kennedy will be the wildcard. I am willing to bet he will not support the notion Congress can tax people for not doing anything but breathing.

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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    IMO, it's unconstitutional
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I've read something today - I think it was on Politico - that Obama is requesting it to be reviewed now because he suspects that the SC will rule the individual mandate (possibly the entire bill) unconstituional and it will give him something to run on/against.
    I think it far more sinister. He knows that he will lose to the full 11th Circuit, and that such a ruling would be huge wood on the fire against him at the heighth of the campaign season. So the sending of it on to SCOTUS actually defers any next decision longer. It is also easier for them to stall leading up to SCOTUS, which they want to do any way that they can. This was all about keeping it out of the news as best as possible. Nothing more.

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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    They elected not to appeal en banc to the 11th Cir. because the 11th is one of, if not the most, conservative circuits in the country. With more and more of the law phasing in over time it just makes sense to resolve this question ASAP. I think the mandate is clearly constitutional but given the makeup of this SC it would not surprise me at all if they ruled against it.

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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    Amazing what a difference the letter in front of a the president's name makes, isn't it?

    "ROMNEY: It was seen as a conservative idea to say, you know what? People have a responsibility for caring for themselves if they can. We’ll help people who can’t care for themselves, but if you can care for yourself, you gotta take care of yourself and pay your own bills.

    In 2006, the Heritage Foundation — which attended the signing ceremony for the law — described Romney’s mandate as “not an unreasonable position, and one that is clearly consistent with conservative values,” claiming that it would reduce “the total cost to taxpayers” by taking people out of the “uncompensated care pool.”

    Gingrich also embraced the “ultimate conservative idea,” writing in a 2007 Des Moines Register op-ed, “Personal responsibility extends to the purchase of health insurance. Citizens should not be able to cheat their neighbors by not buying insurance, particularly when they can afford it, and expect others to pay for their care when they need it.” An “individual mandate,” he added, should be applied “when the larger health-care system has been fundamentally changed.”

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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    I think it is wise to get the matter of constitutionality settled before the 2012 election. The reasons: It makes no sense whatsoever to waste time and money continuing to implement a program if it is unconstitutional. Also, I'd like to see both sides addressing the many pressing problems (including a different program for healthcare if the current program is unconstitutional) than listen to the right trumpet 'unconstitutional' regarding this program and the left defend the program during the election cycle.
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    Re: White House asks Supreme Court to rule on healthcare law

    Getting the supreme court to rule on this is a lose/lose crap for Obama.

    If it's found constitutional, while Obama doesn't have to defend if it's constitutional, he has to defend it's continued existence.

    If it's found unconstituitional, he has to defend that he signed off on a unconstitutional bill.

    The second scenario is worse but the first is bad as well. As I said lose/lose for Obama.

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